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I've been considering volunteering as an Atheist chaplain at my local hospital. I can get formal documents from the First Church of Atheism:

[firstchurchofatheism.com]

Any comments or suggestions?

ldheinz 7 Aug 25
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Volunteer work is so rewarding! Give it a try if you think you'd be good at talking to people who may have just seen their only child die or have been told they have terminal cancer. I think an atheist would be good at comforting both the religious & non-religious, while a believer may be only able to help other believers.

Carin Level 8 Aug 28, 2018
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There are several sites that offer free or low cost ordainments to humanists and atheists for the sole purpose of non-religious folks being able to perform services like weddings/funerals etc., for their peers. I see nothing wrong with it, to get the legal status for an atheist to help other atheists.

I clicked the "ordain me" button at [spiritualhumanism.org] to get the necessary credentials to be able to perform marriages and have made my living doing weddings, funerals and such for the past 12 years. For atheists, by an atheist.

I also think about offering my services to my local hospital, hospice and possibly even our local jail. I firmly believe that the non-religious folks going through a tough time should have a chaplain who understands their own spiritual or philosophical needs during times of distress. There are non-denominational chaplains, but I wonder how often they understand the needs of the totally non-religious, without belief in supernatural deities.

Secular folks also need counseling from time to time, maybe from a peer sharing their own spiritual views, but I also wonder if secular folks are better off with a trained psychologist who shares their spiritual views. (atheistic-agnostic-humanistic)

I'm basically self trained with my own research and various classes and seminars on conducting funerals, weddings, and such, having no credentials really except a few seminar diplomas and an online ordainment.

Besides getting a free or cheap online ordainment, do you have training or resources to show your worthiness in administering to the needs of atheist patients and families in hospitals? What do you have to show that you are serious in helping them? I personally feel there is a real need to have atheist support for patients and their families, but am curious what credentials are helpful to have to be on that volunteer chaplain list.

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If this "church" is just a way to use their religious loopholes to do it then I have no issues with it. I really hate the use of such language though because it plays into the hands of those that want to equate a lack of belief to a belief in a god so then we just like their religions. This is a ridiculous argument but they are winning it since they rule an area society has decided to wall off from rational thought.

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And that is why I never called myself an atheist. I simply Do Not Believe in god or Religion!

And that is the definition of the word Atheist, which is why I do.

@ldheinz Coming from someone that uses a cartoon as avatar!!!! At least I am a Man with Balls!!! You... just a character!!! Go back to where you belong... in church.

@GipsyOfNewSpain, so I make a simple observation and you start spewing insults? Sounds like it's you who belong in xtianity.

@ldheinz If I want to talk to superman... I will dial dc comics... What are you 8?

@GipsyOfNewSpain How rude you are.

@Cassiopeia Yes.

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Very needed but be prepared. It’s hard! People aren’t just sad. They are angry and can’t think rationally at times.
I don’t want to dissuade you. But things that will help you are crisis management skills, de-escalation, of course communication.

Yes, I've read some books on the topic.

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everyone could use someone to talk to in hospital and they might feel better saying your their church chaplain leaves it unconfirmed and so maybe removes some outside stress

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"First Church of Atheism"? Say it ain't so, Joe. I'm tired of arguing with idiots that atheism is NOT a religion.

godef Level 7 Aug 25, 2018

Exactly.

Agree.

Who said that Atheism is a religion? The word "church" comes from the Greek word for "assembly". All that the word "church" indicates is a group of people getting together.

@ldheinz actually.... [en.oxforddictionaries.com]

“Origin
Old English cir💡ce, cyr💡ce, related to Dutch kerk and German Kirche, based on medieval Greek kurikon, from Greek kuriakon (dōma) ‘Lord's (house)’, from kurios ‘master or lord’. Compare with kirk.”

(This app added the lightbulbs, I think because of brackets...)

@Cassiopeia, I got the Greek word as ekklesia, or an assembly of like-minded people.

[gotquestions.org]

@ldheinz it’s an interesting subject but I think I’ll go with the Oxford English dictionary, although there are differing opinions other than following the etymology as given by the OE. It seems that perhaps ‘church’ is the umbrella body (Church of England, Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster etc.) and ‘ekklesia’ (or ecclesia) are the people, the actual congregation.

I read this [bibleodyssey.org] but it hurt my brain a bit.

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