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I've been with my current partner for nearly 6 years.
It's been mostly wonderful.
Lately, it's been bad.

His communication skills have disappeared along with his ability to listen.
He just does whatever he pleases.

I've attempted to discuss all of this with him to no avail.

It's been a few bad months.

How long would you try to salvage a relationship before you officially called it quits?

Donotbelieve 9 Aug 27
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About now. In the past I stuck with it and was married twice believing it would eventually work. AS you get older you realize it is either there or not. The real trick is to believe yourself and not the convenience of it all. And after the break up , if it is real, it will show itself again. No need to believe in something that may not be there

EMC2 Level 8 Nov 2, 2018
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Be prepared for separation even before trying to find out why.

Gert Level 7 Nov 2, 2018

@Donotbelieve I actually meant that in that situation you'd better gather, or at least list those things that are valuable for you. Years ago as there was a bankruptcy rising at the horizon, I took all that was valuable (not just money wise) and stored that with family and friends. Later it appeared that I had not needed to do it, but it still gave me peace of mind riding this bumpy road.

@Donotbelieve You are so lucky. I have a lot of good memories stored in quite some objects. On the other hand, one trunk is probably still enough. They are just for the years that are left for me to live. When I die I don't care anyway. But, I'm glad I don't need to worry about it.

@Donotbelieve What can a (wo)man want more? Fulfill the life as you like it most. I'm glad for you.
My needs are more in the middle. I love some paintings, my cook-ware and smaller things in the house. Well, a mattress, some blankets and a few pillows are welcome too. But what does a person need to survive …… or die? Not much I guess 😉

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I don't know that I have anything to add to what other commenters have already said advice-wise. Sorry to hear you're going through that.

I hope you're able to figure out the best decision for you both, in the near future.

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Perhaps he's ill? Seriously....how long since he's seen a doctor? You don't mention his age but he could have hormone issues or something worse. Just a thought. GOOD LUCK TO YOU!

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An abrupt personality change can mean anything from cheating to mental or physical illness. I would have what my grandma would have called a "come to Jesus meeting," meaning a pull-out-all-the-stops confrontation. I wish I had done that before actually catching my husband in the act. By then it was too late.

Deb57 Level 8 Aug 29, 2018
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I'm sorry to have to say this but he has already left mentally, he is just waiting to leave physically ; maybe hoping you will force the issue.

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I hung in there too long for the first two long terms...well it seems like it was too long, but I think that we are in it until the time is right for it to end. The 3rd (and last one so far!), I didn't wait so long, once the red flags were popping up all over the place! I have learned to not tolerate being disrespected in any way. After trying to communicate openly about the issues, if they are not willing to own their actions, not willing to work on the issues, it's time to kick em to the curb. Stand your ground, you deserve to be treated with kindness and love and RESPECT.

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I guess it might be over but one consideration: Very frequently when people say someone else is not "listening" to them or has stopped communicating with them it simply means the other person disagrees with them. That might be reason to re-examine the relationship or reason to move on...

OCJoe Level 6 Aug 29, 2018
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Nothing last forever. Cliche as it sounds but that's the way it is.

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You do not want to wait until you get slapped in the face! When someone stops trying any is liable to happen.

I meant 'anything" is liable to happen. I wish you well on your decision.

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Sit him down and have one more talk to him. Make it as obvious as what you are saying to us here. If he doesn't respond, you know how long you have to take.

In fact, you already know, or you'd not be asking. My real advice here is to make sure your partner KNOWS before you move forward.

@Donotbelieve Just for the record, and I don't think YOU need to hear this but I don't like getting caught in assumptions: my relationship survived good times and bad times... and some of the bad times lasted a LONG time. WE worked at it and we muscled through. Fortunately, when I was down, she was my rock. When she was struggling, I was hers. We both helped nudge, push, pull each other when necessary. That said, at times each partner may well feel like they are carrying all of the weight. The key is that it shifts. My only real regret is that I didn't acknowledge this with her enough. I didn't thank her enough. I guess I am saying that I intend to make sure to make it obvious that I am thankful when next I get a chance to share my life.

@Gnarloc I envy you that marriage. I was raised to believe that's how marriage was supposed to be. My huge flaw was in the choosing of the partner. As my dear dad explained it, "She can't tell the difference between a prince and a pile of poop!"

@Deb57 Thank you for that laugh. 🙂

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Could he be unwell? If it’s a sudden change and not his usual self?

Livia Level 6 Aug 28, 2018
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I’d suggest couples therapy, even if just for yourself so you can get good, specific info.

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I would never abandone those green eyes! ??
And I will be happy if I got just a little smile in your face.

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Sad to say there is a trick some men use to absolve themselves of responsibility in a failing relationship, which is simply to become such a pain in the arse that the other partner leaves or throws them out, making him the innocent victim of a heartless and unreasonable woman.

This is true, you're so right. It's a coward's way too, used by crappy communicators.

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That sucks, I'm sorry. In my experience if communication has died, there is no other path to a successful relationship. If he won't talk about your issues, he already chose to end it.

@Donotbelieve Wow, that's very "adult" of you, I'd probably still be burning his underwear or something equally petty. If there's one thing I really wish I was stronger with it would be forgiveness.

@Donotbelieve I assumed that when you said "he just does whatever he pleases" that he was doing things that were not any longer conducive to your happiness. Personally if a SO began to disregard my feelings I'd be heated.

@Donotbelieve You sound very accepting of the situation. If I'm prying feel free not to answer, but did you go through a phase of extreme emotion over this? I feel like before a relationship ends, that I'm definitely in a state at one point or another where I'm almost to the edge trying to make it work in any way that I can.

@Donotbelieve Holy shit if I get a vote for the 15th Dalai Lama, you're it.

When a relationship ends I take it as a point of pride that I act like an adult. I'll make sure that I don't badmouth the other person or be unfair in how we split, or even hurt them more than absolutely necessary. I want them to be okay for all the good times we had, but inside I'm plotting their demise of them and anyone who's name starts with the same letter.

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In my experience dragging out a bad relationship is worse then ending it but it's your decision in the end

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First off, really sorry that you're going through this. The end of a relationship
is always difficult.
And yes, I said "the end of a relationship".

Based on what you said (and I believe you, I think you're pretty level-headed, and not a drama queen, who makes up shit just to have something going on), he no longer communicates, you've tried talking to him, it's been going on for months,
it's over.
I don't believe in ultimatums. To me, giving someone an ultimatum is equivalent to emotional blackmail, and it hardly ever works. In most cases, even if the other person acquiesces, it's only temporary, and you're right back to where you were in fairly short order.
He's made his position clear. If he were interested in making the relationship work, he wouldn't be behaving as he is.

Make your own plans. Do not include him in those plans. Begin the execution of
your plans as quickly as possible.
If he's in your house, boot his ass out, with no remorse. No discussion, and no possibility of making you change your mind. Have people present for your own protection.
If you're in his house, make arrangements to move you and yours into another domicile as soon as financially feasible.
If you are both on a lease, find out what your legal obligations are. Take the necessary steps to extricate yourself.

Do not tell him your plans. He has no right to know what you're planning.
If you think there is any danger of violence, be prepared to file for a restraining order, and go FASTER.

I know there are some who will think that I am unnecessarily going straight to
Def-con 5, but I've been through this. I've seen this play out in multiple scenarios for myself, and others.
The ONLY thing that matters is protecting yourself, and any children who may be
effected. His feelings are irrelevant now. He has shown you that he no longer cares about the relationship, therefore, he no longer cares about about your feelings. I'm not saying to be ugly, vindictive, or confrontational in any way.
Actually, that is to be avoided as much as possible.

Don't make excuses for him. He's a grown-ass adult. If he doesn't know how to conduct himself within the context of a relationship, it's not your job to hang out and teach him. He may never learn, and you've got more important things to do.
Good luck going forward. I'm here for you if you need moral support.

I agree with you in principle but if a child is now involved I personally think it's worth a little more effort to at least get to the bottom of what is going on, even if it's not fixable. He's a permanent psychological fixture in the child's life going forward even if the relationship ends, so it's worth some effort to see if he can be prevented from becoming a completely absent / irresponsible father. So efforts at open communication and understanding are worth it for the child's sake, if it's at all possible.

@mordant I disagree 100%. As a child of parents who NEVER should have gotten married, let alone had children, I firmly believe that "staying together for the kids" is the worst thing any couple can do. It only makes it worse on the kids. Instead of making a clean break, and focusing on making it okay for the kids, the drama gets dragged out and that effects the kids in an even more profound manner. Breaking up isn't 'more' traumatic for kids than two people who should no longer be together, staying together in acrimony, under the guise of trying to work it out for the kids. Kids are resilient, they're also smart enough to know when their parents are unhappy.

@KKGator I actually agree. I'm not proposing "staying together for the kids", simply laying a better working basis for shared parenting. It is also possible on occasion that a happy outcome of that is resolution of issues in the relationship, but I would never count on it. My basic point is that fighting on the child's behalf for a better coparenting situation is more worthwhile (and arguably more ethically binding) than fighting for a dying relationship when the effort is not mutual.

My first wife never gave our kids the time of day after the divorce, largely because she was mentally / emotionally incapable of it. I saw how that effected my kids. My current wife's struggles with shared custody arrangements inform the rest. In that case it started out well and then her ex remarried to a child hating P.O.S. You can never be sure that's not going to be a source of drama but you can at least try not to front load it with difficulties. Children need their father, at least if he's making some kind of actual effort. Ending a relationship on a positive and cooperative note helps. The typical strategy of demonizing and demoralizing the father usually doesn't end well, for the child much less anyone else.

@mordant I can agree with your basic point. Although, I have no idea if that's even a consideration in this particular situation. She didn't mention it, and I wouldn't dream of assuming.

@KKGator Yeah I've been careful to say "if that's true", it's none of my beeswax. If there's no children in the mix (including any children from prior relationships who have affection for the S.O.) then things get a LOT simpler and less painful. But even there, one has to do what's right for oneself, and staying in a loveless unfulfilling relationship ultimately doesn't work.

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I'm sorry you are going through this. =[

A number of people have mentioned pregnancy in this comment thread but I see nothing in your post to suggest that. If he has had such a major attitude shift in a relatively short period of time my guess is that something is wrong (yeah, I know, stating the obvious). If you have tried to pin him down on what's bothering him or what "issues" he may have in the relationship in the spirit of trying to fix things and he is not responding to you, it could be he has already checked out.

If that's the case you may not be able to change it, and probably shouldn't want to. Why fight for someone who doesn't want to be with you? If he really is done, it would be nice for you to at least know what his deal is.

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i would address him and say either we sit down and talk now or I will be leaving soon.If he isn't ready to talk the time to leave is now.

@Donotbelieve Why does he "deserve that much"???
If you've already tried to talk to him, already delivered an ultimatum, you already have your answer.
What do you think you "deserve"? Do you think you deserve someone who hears you when you talk to him?
Darlin', I think you already have your answer. You also used the word "salvage" in your original post. That words indicates to me that something is already broken. Do you deserve to remain in a relationship that is already broken?

@KKGator If you have delivered the ultimatum and you are still with him he has control over you and you need to break that. I would move on immediately.

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The 7 year itch is a real thing. It's the point in the relationship when your partner feels trapped, that he is missing out on things he'd be able to pursue if not for you, and his resentment grows each day. Sometimes it blows over, and your relationship recovers to be stronger than ever. When is it beyond salvaging? When you find yourself unable to swallow any more of his crap. Everyone has a different point of no return. Taking the step to separate yourself from the drama isn't easy, especially if there are children involved, but the old saying here applies, if you think you have a problem, you probably do. That's all I got. See a counselor by yourself, if he won't join you. My ex decided to move out just about 10 years ago, after 28 years of marriage. I let her go without a fight, best move I've ever made. Good luck, DNB.

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I spent 31 years in a marriage that was broken at 27 years. Sounds like he may have found someone else. As someone else said if you still love him try to get him to talk. If not, my advice is not to waste much more time and move on. Time and life fly by..

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What significant changes have occurred in your life, his life and your shared life in the past few months? This could give you a clue as to what has happened that has caused this change in your relationship, rarely does change occur in a vacuum so look at yourself as well as him, then maybe you can sort things out with him. It sounds like it needs to be addressed and the sooner the better.

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A few months doesn't seem long compared to almost 6 years of good. I would find a nice quiet relaxed time to try to get to the bottom of it. And, perhaps acknowledge that he might not be ready to talk, but ask that he does soon.

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