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I have been an atheist all my life, but am fully aware that I am in the minority. I have wondered about the majority and where their need for religion originates. One obvious choice is the childhood indoctrination that is common worldwide. Another is comfort and ease of belief, and therefore the lack of need to consider some fairly unknowable and scary parts of life. But I also have read some anthropology articles proposing that through evolution humans somehow are "hardwired" with religion for survival. Essentially part of tribalism. I doubt intelligence is a factor, because I know some very intelligent people who are devout theists. So where do we, as atheists, diverge?

Donwhy 6 Sep 1
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Possibly some hardworking in the sense that it helped for survival. But most of my friends grew up indoctrinated and never thought about it. They just go with what their family practices. I know very few people who know enough about their religion to legitimately be able to say they are a believer.

Good point! "Religious Scholars" (perhaps an oxymoron) (or perhaps a regular moron) are few and far between.

@Donwhy not an oxymoron. There is a lot to study when it comes to religion 🙂

@Matias why would you believe in something, live your life around it and not understand it? That is not sensible. Basing your life on some thing you don't understand?

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I’d long considered myself in ‘a minority,’ until studying breakdowns of various religions. ‘Non-believers’ are making a larger slice of the pie all the time!

..and, the deepest of questions... I’ve heard that ‘hardwired’ claim, too, but don’t believe it. There are plenty of instincts we humans suppress on a daily basis, and now, with access to Real Answers, it appears to me the best among us can adapt.

As for the intelligence of “devout theists,” honestly, I do not consider them ‘that intelligent.’ Well disciplined, clever, manipulative ..perhaps - but lacking a degree of both intellect & integrity necessary to claim mental parity, let alone superiority. As I see it, we Atheist are the humble ones - the only ones honestly admitting some answers are missing.

Varn Level 8 Sep 1, 2018
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Hardwiring from our tribal past in one explanation. Richard Dawkin's description of a cooperative gene which leads to altruism could possibly be another solution. I just finished watching a Rabbi give a Jewish answer, which is that we are born with pieces of a pre-birth memory of a time when our souls were comfortable in a celestial state of being. Conception and later birth are traumatic events which wipe out the majority of this memory. Near death experiences are a memory of the traumatic birth event replete with the experiences of traveling through a dark tunnel into a harsh light. I'm going with all three.

There are neurological explanations for near death experiences (There are several variations described in the literature) that make as much or more sense as any spiritual explanation. Dawkins needs to isolate such a gene.

@Donwhy Of course. I wouldn't argue my point of view from a position of righteousness.. I just like the Jewish explanation. As far as near death experience, I had one but, I just try to remember the feeling (comfort similar to returning home from a long unpleasant trip). The rest of my memory of the event is subject to being a degraded memory fortified by imagination as all memories are. I'm sure you're right that the feeling I had was neurological in origin but that doesn't make it illegitimate in my view.

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I'm not the first to say it, but religion is an accident of birth and geography, reinforced over a lifetime by tribalism. I am proud of all of us who have been able to open our minds to see beyond its limitations and shake it off. It is not easy.

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I was not brought up in a religious household. My parents were non practicing Catholics. I joined a local church when I was about five as I was very shy, no friends and just the desire to belong.

A similar experience, my 4 siblings and I asked to go to church. Maybe 9 months later, comparing notes, so to speak, we determined it was nuts. I can still envision our little pow wow on the sidewalk across from the church. Mom, an Atheist, smiled, no more church, and we remain atheists 🙂

@Varn the doubts began when I was 8, left the church at about 13. Remained more agnostic until my 20’s before finishing my evolution as I refer to it.

@Green_eyes I was likely 10, the oldest of our little tribe. Atheism either came naturally or from my Mom, more likely the latter.. Now if we could only be swept off to an appreciative planet 🙂

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Ever see Fiddler on the roof? I think they nailed it. If I remember right he kept saying "tradition".

My father was racially jewish, but did not believe. Seeing "Fiddler" was the first awakening of my awareness of what a jewish background meant. However, what I saw was a gradual dissolution of tradition. Pictures of my great grandparents looked similar to the actors in "Fiddler" but my jewish friends looked like everybody else in suburban California. I guess traditions change, but religion adapts.

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