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I can clearly remember my mom praying (and I’ve heard others say this too) that if her children would not serve god when they are older to please take them now. What a sick sick prayer.

CoCoCatina 4 Sep 6
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When I was a youth, I remember an 11 year old relative died. At his funeral, I remember my mother turning to me(16yrs old) and my brother(15yrsold) and saying "I'm glad it was him, and not either one of you boys, because he was under the age of twelve, so he's in heaven, but ya'll would be in hell, if it had been ya'll"

Yep! Just add that to our grief!

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Almost wish my dad would have uttered such cruel nonsense. I would be more than happy to ask him how that worked out, as it should have all been foreseen that I would have strayed as far as I have and without the slightest hint of remorse. Who would best be reflected by such sentiment?

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i agree. there are, in fact, delusional mothers who take their children's lives in the belief that they'll be happier in heaven than in this cruel, cruel world, or in the compatible belief that they should die before becoming sinners. be glad your mom just prayed about it and didn't act on it!

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This sentiment evokes the fear-driven prayer so many have repeated:
"and if I die before I wake, I pray the Lord my soul to take."

If the goal is to get to heaven, and this life is merely a 'waiting room' for the afterlife, how much value is placed in the present? Or even, the near future?

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Well I'm sorry but that's f***** up what kind of sick sick mother prays for the death of her own children because they won't believe in a psychosis I'm sorry but that is just horribly wrong

You seem surprised. This attitude is not all that different from the Muslim mother who celebrates her son's act of suicidal homicide as martyrdom. Like the Muslim mother, the Christian mother whose child was 'taken' by God prior to being filled with religious doubt, fully expects to see that child again in heaven. Such is the psychosis, as you've appropriately labeled it, of religion!

@pnfullifidian I would say more horrified then surprised I couldn't ever imagine wishing for my child to die under any circumstances again I say that is just absolutely sick

@Drsmash253 What experience do you have with orthodox religion?

@pnfullifidian I was raised way out in the woods by some very strange hillbilly parents and they had no religious beliefs whatsoever so by the time I really ran into it my opinion was wow that is just batshit crazy of course I feel that way about Society in general anyway LOL

@Drsmash253 Your reaction is completely understandable. One wonders how an alien species, visiting our pale blue dot, would react to our spectrum of religious cultures. But now that you know what people are made capable of doing in the name of religion, nothing should surprise you any more ... yes?

@pnfullifidian to be honest I still live way out in the woods and I have a very small circle of friends and family that I love and care about other than that I really don't have much contact with the outside world I find human beings to be the most psychotic scary creatures on the planet and I really try to avoid most of them I'm self-employed and most of the time I don't even see my customers my only contact with them really is when they send me checks in the mail

@Drsmash253 Consider your isolation a blessing, but also a potential curse. Having travelled and lived in many countries, I find the exposure stimulating, the variety of cultures intriguing and the common wants, values and desires reassuring. Peace.

@pnfullifidian I have no interest in those things I'm where I want to be I've achieved the type of life that most people can only imagine and I really don't care what the rest of the worlds doing every morning when I wake up and everything still here I consider it another good day

@Drsmash253 No interest whatsoever? Nothing left for you to learn about other cultures, places and histories? No new languages? New sights? New foods? New ideas? New friends? In my opinion, a lack of, as you say, "care what the rest of the worlds doing" combined with a self-imposed immobility could lead to self-absorption, intellectual stagnation and apathy.

@pnfullifidian. No

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