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The universe is the ultimate energy system. Within there are many more systems each relying on the energy it contains including systems with kinetic energy. Dark matter is also an energy, but a universal one, and cannot be detected. Is there any energy system within the universe that we can measure and provide an answer to this mystery?
Is there a pattern that energy has to adhere to wherever it is and whatever it controls?

dodin 4 Sep 17
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Thanks for the video, I have watched it before. I think we are both right. There has to be a correlation of the two to counteract inflation. Though they are both different in make-up; like everything else in the universe they interact. It is like a conundrum of emotions that exist, but each emotion means a different thing to each individual, yet all come from the same source. Another example is the balance in nature we can either look at it as different species or as one collection of life itself.Thanks for your comment

dodin Level 4 Sep 18, 2018
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Birdingnut, you are a breath of fresh air. Is dark matter and its ability really something we can see and measure? Let me take you nearer to home and see if we can study it at close range. After much research which I can explain if it is needed, it is a fact that life on earth is just one energy; life started as one and is still evolving as one. The one energy that brings variety to the balance of life is beyond our control at the moment, it is fully in charge but only because we don't understand. (dark matter) Can you imagine if one day we could understand it, the magic would become real. Think of all the mutations that happen just to fit within the the circle of life. Ghosts which can only come from the living and not the dead; dreams of the future, plus all the unexplained supernatural phenomenon will start to unravel,we will find ourselves with scientific knowledge that for now we can only dream of. Energy (dark matter)has its fundamental pattern, obeying the same laws throughout the universe and here on earth too. What I see, but don't see, is more of this pattern shouting out, and not being heard. You will only for the first time experience dark matter if you can wipe clean from your mind the complexity of life and subjugate.

dodin Level 4 Sep 18, 2018
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i fear this question could go on for a whiles as we all nit pick the multitude of variables within it and thats without the really smart people turning up so im going to say yes and no and come back in a couple of days and see 👍

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Hmm..you might not be keeping with the latest physics news.

In 2016, the idea was reintroduced that dark matter doesn’t exist at all; no missing matter is needed to explain the errant motions of the heavenly bodies; rather, on cosmic scales, gravity itself works in a different way than either Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein predicted.

Erik Verlinde, a theoretical physicist at the University of Amsterdam casts gravity as a byproduct of quantum interactions and suggests that the extra gravity attributed to dark matter is an effect of “dark energy”—the background energy woven into the space-time fabric of the universe.

In his calculations, Verlinde rediscovered the equations of “modified Newtonian dynamics,” or MOND.
Instead of hordes of invisible particles, “dark matter is an interplay between ordinary matter and dark energy,” Verlinde said.

Einstein defined gravity as the effect of curves in space-time created by the presence of matter. According to the new approach, gravity is an emergent phenomenon. Space-time and the matter within it are treated as a hologram that arises from an underlying network of quantum bits (called “qubits” ), much as the three-dimensional environment of a computer game is encoded in classical bits on a silicon chip.

Working within this framework, Verlinde traces dark energy to a property of these underlying qubits that supposedly encode the universe. On large scales in the hologram, he claims, dark energy interacts with matter in just the right way to create the illusion of dark matter.

In a new analysis of galaxies published on Nov. 9 in Physical Review Letters, three astrophysicists led by Stacy McGaugh of Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have strengthened the case against dark matter.

The researchers analyzed a diverse set of 153 galaxies, and for each one they compared the rotation speed of visible matter at any given distance from the galaxy’s center with the amount of visible matter contained within that galactic radius. Remarkably, these two variables were tightly linked in all the galaxies by a universal law, dubbed the “radial acceleration relation.”

This makes perfect sense in the MOND paradigm, since visible matter is the exclusive source of the gravity driving the galaxy’s rotation (even if that gravity does not take the form prescribed by Newton or Einstein). With such a tight relationship between gravity felt by visible matter and gravity given by visible matter, there would seem to be no room, or need, for dark matter.

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Thanks for your comments, I agree with you on almost all that you have written. The gravity described by Newton and Einstein would not be compatible with the way that dark energy appears to work. Life cannot see accurately; it is only by struggling through the darkness do we start to see accurately, It feeds our intelligence.
Like most things in the universe it is patterns that tell us the most. I believe this will finally give us the answer; the question is; where do we look? Because we cannot see accurately, it builds up the picture which you describe; a good picture I must add.
We are all part of the universe; we are made from the stuff of the stars. By looking closer to home, I am almost sure we will find the answer.
Thanks again for your reply; loved it.

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So, in other words even with all the research and speculation we still basically don't really know what the fuck is going on.......

True; that's what makes it interesting.

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You are getting ahead of yourself we don't classify dark matter or dark energy as actual matter or energy because we don't know what they are. The terms dark energy and dark matter are place holders for those unknown quantities until we can define them.

We know something is there based on the effect it has on physical objects in the universe, but definitively categorizing it is premature.

JimG Level 8 Sep 17, 2018

Thanks for your reply. I am not categorising in the way you describe. Energy is just the one energy. It is allowed to change its form. but it still remains the one energy.

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