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A post from earlier today pointed out that many of us have found that our beliefs (cultural and political, and religious) have changed so much that we have we could never "go home again: or even remain in the culture in which we grew up.

I would like to ask those who have experienced that to share the life events that changed them so much that they could not "fit in" again where they grew up.

wordywalt 9 Jan 26
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Like others, I did not grow up in only one place.

And, while I was baptized as a Catholic, we stopped going to church when my parents divorced when I was about 5. So, I was not raised "with religion." My step-mom occasionally took us to church, but that was the extent of it.

So, there is nothing culturally or otherwise unappealing about where I grew up. In fact, politically, I absolutely long to be west of the Rockies or Sierra Nevadas. Where I am now, I am a fish out of water.

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Puertorricans used to have the tendency to return home to die. My ex-wife is remarrying a third time and retiring to live back in the island with her non english speaking husband. Me? I had become a "citizen of the world". I had lived in better places not for being better places but because the experience made a better person out of me. If life is suppose to be the journey and not the destination... you planting your feet on the side of the road that you like while it roots you also stops you from seeing what's around the bend. Also stops you from learning if the path taken on a fork was right or not. As a teenager trying to become a functional communist in a capitalist society we talked about being "citizens of the world" or the beauty of being an "anarchist adventurer". I was born to be in for the whole experience. I even served in the military while believing in the Independence of Puerto Rico. But the fire in my belly is not consumed yet... I understand the ex for being tired of traveling in her job that takes her anywhere in the planet where ever senior military needs to make a home so that includes China and Russia. I may return home one day to die. But I know that the day will not pass when I will not tell someone... "You need to get out of the island while you bullshit". Religion will never be part of the decision... I had been a gipsy and I endorse this message.

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I love you brother but I've done this a couple of times before. The life story and how i got here. I'm just grateful I'm here. I'm retired... there aint no going back... it's straight forward from here.

Is your time to do whatever you want to do.

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I didn't live at home from about 16, not my choice. But was guilted into helping my family out in many ways, pretty much raised my youngest brother, paid my parents mortgage out twice, the 2nd time because my father re mortgaged it to cover gambling debts. The demands on me never stopped, so just before my sons 2nd birthday, I up and moved interstate. I never went back to the family, and am not welcome back. I talk to my disabled sister and my youngest brother but have nothing to do with the rest of the family. I have nothing at all in common with them, they remain pious religious twits incapable of doing anything for themselves, they have too much reliance on doctors as in they are hypochondriacs and waste time and money with constant visits, high levels of medication and will shop around if they don't get the medication they want, they also accept whatever the Government tells them, will never argue, never seem to have an opinion of their own on anything important.

Those things would drive you away. I am sorry that you had to live through that.

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Funny you should ask this question....I just hung up the phone on my father about 10 minutes ago. He's been calling for some time asking me for money, and today I was very clear that I could not help him anymore. He went on a rant yelling that I was committing a sin for not being there for him and that I would suffer an eternal damnation...blah, blah blah! I told him I will no longer tolerate his disrespect of me, my time, my views and that I will NOT be damned by his god, as I have no belief in said entity...he continued to preach and I just hung up the phone. Boy that felt good! Everyone else in my family is aware of my non-belief and they all respect it. I attend family functions and all are polite to not discuss religion with me.

Nena Level 6 Jan 26, 2018

When I first married, almost 40 years ago, my father would turn up on my doorstep of a Saturday morning and ask to borrow money. Then he would beg, saying he just wanted to buy my mother something nice, the amount would go from a few hundred dollars, down to $40, then he would start getting narky and abusive. Saturday is race day, he would gamble all his pay plus what ever he could coerce from others, I gave up my part time job when I was at school because he would take my pay each week. Thankfully he is not religious, and as far as I am concerned he is the one who has been burning in hell for the past 20 years.

That does feel good! I've done that before to someone being demanding and disrespectful at the same time.

@atheist I am sorry but my children are My assholes as long I am alive. I am an enabler and their plan C, every fucking day of the week.

@atheist I catch a lot of grief from relatives because I am still helping them out while being retired but to me is... I didn't have that benefit when young so between they enjoying a weekend while young and I enjoying a weekend while old... my bucket is full... let the young enjoy the weekend. Somehow they are my responsibility until I or they die. I am lucky I don't have to visit one of my children in prison, hospital, sanatorium or cemetary. I am also Lucky, none is an asshole that I hate or despise. The mother did a great job... My job was to find a good mother to my kids. Success!!!! Victory!!!!

@Rugglesby Thanks for the reminder. It's been a long journey. I've always felt like the black sheep in my family. I was kicked out of catechism classes at age 4 because I asked how it was that Adam and Eve populated the entire planet if they only produced two sons...who did they mate with...sisters? Grandma wasn't happy that I got kicked out. (lol) When I finally turned 18, and felt that I was a legal adult, I informed my family that I would no longer be attending mass or participating in any of their religious events. To this day, I have not attended Sunday services.

@Rugglesby I wish it had only been a few hundred, but I fel for his manipulative shenanigans to the tune of over 40K. (Lesson learned! Never again.) If I have been able to find my way out and forward...so can he!

@Nena = Ouch

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I think we all grow and adapt, and every situation is different. I'm by no means the same person I was, and indeed I don't fit in with the groups I was involved with growing up. But groups are made of people, too, so while I couldn't ever go back to the way things were when I was a kid, the strict religious environment, my family has grown and adapted along with me. Most of them still believe, but I fit in (somewhat) because they accept me even if we disagree.

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I’ve grown up all over the country. It’s my parents I can’t go back to. My mom remarried when I was 13, to a far right wing, tight ass conservative Catholic and she took on all of that. Oy vey!

Yikes! I'm sorry about that.

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