My ex wife of 24 years and I slept together about 5 hours after we met, we have two kids together, still very good friends and I do respect her. Not all men are alike, it doesn't matter if you are religious or not, what matters is respecting your partners choices

I'd like to know more of his side of the story, but it seems like blatant hypocrisy. I've found many women really want the chase or chivalry common in antiquated dating norms. I guess if women enjoy that game then some men must also think it's fun.

Personally, while good sex is essential for a LTR, other than minimal compatibility, sex is far from my mind for the first couple of dates.

I don't have a hard rule, but if it seems likely a woman who will have sex on the first date and I aren't looking for the same thing in a relationship.

I have a house that is paid for, a comfortable bed to sleep in, hot water shower, and more technology than I know what to do with, but the sex by myself and just a bunch of pixels is getting old. Need the real thing.

Some people seem to have built-in limits. Others of us seem to have to work hard to know what our limits are! Oh! The gift of an early teacher...

I think the theme here is more about territoriality and sexism springing from that than any religious concept,

That is a couple's story... there are all kinds of stories. I never, ever put any weight on sleeping with me or not on first date to be requirement or not in my search of what a good woman should be. It is a process. That takes time and full of tests to pass or to flunk. There were a lot of women in my life I considered them material for marriage... how it will turn out... I have no idea... I only married one for 19 years. But she is the only one that after breaking up for about 9 months we came back together and why we came back together? Well we went out in a friend date and when the slow music came in the club I went dancing with somebody else and she left, leaving me stranded in the club, so next day I was at her place trying to find out what was that about. We talked, we went out for movie dinner and we got caught up in the courting. I was an atheist and I am great on one night stands. And in my frame of my mind I was not looking for a mother to my kids in church... I was looking for the mother of my kids in a club. I used my sister to get to her. But it worked out alright despite me spilling a drink on her first time I kissed her. Each couple story is different. What if... is like science fiction... kind of fugazi.

I think the times they are a changing. Society changes in 10 years and hopefully this guy did with it. He was certainly a hypocrite. I was always pretty liberal but I certainly have changed attitudes about a lot of things. Having a strong willed and thoughtful daughter has helped with my transition to say the least. My wife is a lot more conservative than either of us but she's coming around also.

His individual experience with the women in his life may be very different than we can imagine. Lots of bad relationships, nasty breakups, etc.
And in an effort to alter those unpleasant outcomes, and having

Seems weird and overly judgemental ... he would damn her for the very behaviour he was trying to do.

That sounds like a very nice story.

I show courtesy to everyone I meet and I have a good respect for women.
But some men just want a quick hook up. Nowadays I think people are too open and easy when it comes to sex but that's the way things are and I don't really dislike it, but I would prefer to go on a couple of dates to get to know the person first before going any further with a girl I liked.

I might be a bit old fashioned but even if a girl said she wanted to sleep with me after the first date, I'd be a bit hesitant and ask if that was really what she wanted.

Also I know this sounds a bit suspect since most guys would just accept. But honestly I just want to meet a nice girl who I can have deep and meaningful conversations with.

There seems to be this gender separated mentality where girls like to talk about music, celebrities, clothes, travel (I assume from what I've heard, probably incorrect about that) and men (at least my friends and I do this) like to talk about politics, philosophy, history, careers, video games and sport.