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Assuming everybody here r atheists, do we all genuinely want to see our country as an atheist nation or do we still want religion in some aspects of life.

Greenheart 7 Oct 26
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In any country the strict application of the separation of church and state by force of law.
If religion is kept in the home home and the holy place fine.
Keep it out of school totally
Keep it out of government utterly
Keep it off the streets
Recognise it as a business and make it pay taxes and be subject to the same legal requirements of all other business (Conformity to sex discrimination, age and race discrimination legislation for example and physical assault of infants )
Make proselyting to anyone under the age of majority illegal.

that would be acceptable to begin with.

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  1. incorrect assumption even by loose definitions; apart from actual trolls, there are some people here who call themselves spiritual, or even believers. but most of us are atheists and agnostics. 2. may i assume by "nation" you mean the united states? there are people here from other places. since i am american, i will proceed along those lines. we need a secular nation. that's not the same as an atheist one. i would not presume to tell people what or how to believe (or not). 3. people have tried, sometimes successfully, to rewrite history. it's not a good thing to do. as long as religion is part of history, some people will take it more seriously than others. we cannot fully understand all of secular history and society without understanding religious history. this is not the same as following a religion or believing in deities, of course. but we can't just erase it, not without turning into the cambodia of the 1970s.

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I believe a country needs people of different faiths. Alot of the people I meet really need to believe in a higher power and I would never want to take that away from them.

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Yes. I genuinely want to see not just this nation, but every nations to be atheist in nature.

But that's ideally speaking, that is an assertion of my value.

I don't think that is a realistic goal in any near future.

I mean, it ain't gonna happen as a result of "thoughts and prayers." 🙂

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No religion....none

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Religion can help other people with some things. For example, coping with death, disability, and disease.

However, I am for complete separation of church and state. I would like an amendment for freedom FROM religion.No more holy wars! I think leaning the history of religion is important to understand atrocities committed in the name of "my western religion is right." I would still like to see the practice of Native American and other non-Christian traditions and belief systems. some would argue that violence is secular. I do not.

[en.wikipedia.org]

An interesting quote from the Wikipedia link you provided:

“Studies of supposed cases of religious violence often conclude that violence is strongly driven by ethnic animosities rather than by religious worldviews.[9] Recently, scholars have questioned the very concept of "religious violence" and the extent to which religious, political, economic, or ethnic aspects of a conflict are even meaningful.[10] Some observe that the very concept of "religion" is a modern invention and not something that is universal across cultures or historical and thereby makes "religious violence" a myth.[10][11] Since all cases of violence and war include social, political, and economic dimensions and since there is no consensus on definitions of "religion" among scholars and no way to isolate "religion" from the rest of the more likely motivational dimensions, it is incorrect to label any violent event as "religious".”

Not saying I necessarily agree with every word of that quote, but an interesting reference nonetheless.

Another interesting perspective that I recently came across is that less than 7% of all known wars are considered to be religiously motivated:

[huffingtonpost.com]

Echoed in:
[en.m.wikipedia.org]

Peace. 🙂

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I don't care what people believe. So long as they don't try to make their religion into laws that everyone has to follow.

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There are many theists that slime these pages with unsupported, irrational and unfounded assertions.

IMO I would like to see ALL religion taught in history classes, not to assert faith (belief without evidence) is a method to find truth (testable, supported by facts) but as an historic footnote of the follies of humanity. As for allowing religions special tax and protection status, Like tobacco industry, should be highly taxed and regulated like any other business that can causes damage to societal health.

Teaching religion is a slippery slope, even by the best prepared to do so. When I taught, a colleague taught a comparative religions class one year. I had difficulty with the curriculum and told him so. It did not, to any great extent, examine atheism; of course, it also spent more time with the Abrahanic religions and more briefly on the other major world religions (mostly Asian); it failed to address non trinitarianism; and, avoided all mention of Nativism.

@Beowulfsfriend Recently a friend's son and daughter, both theists, with the daughter being extremely theistic. Took the religion class in high school. They both became atheists. with the boy claiming the religion class was the reason he became an atheist because he noticed ALL the religions made just as much (non) sense.

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