Lost the fight to the death on the last flatscreen TV?

Never done it. Never will do it. However, loads of people are willing victims of ' salesmanship'.

I'm so glad I don't give gifts during the holidays anymore. Don't miss it a bit. In the old days, I was once pressured by my enthusiastic teenage kids to do the Black Friday shopping, where they set their alarms super early with a planned route, having scoped out all the good deals and freebies at each store with newspaper ads. They made it fun with their expectation of a huge frenzy, and they weren't disappointed. Me, I was just tired, but glad they enjoyed it. While it was an unforgettable experience, I'm glad it didn't turn into a holiday tradition.

There are lots of people that really enjoy this. Maybe it brings out the competitive hunting feelings in them.

Just buy online and pickup at leisure. Black Friday is my favorite shopping day of the year.

Stopped that years ago. There is no bargain worth the experience of all the rude people. Small business Saturday is better.

Side note, I dislike humanity even more than I did before. Cash over courtesy is the way of capitalism.