You need to stop calling people losers. It is unacceptable. It is not their fault that they do not have a job a lot of the time, especially since so many jobs go overseas to countries who pay their staff pittance. Of course it is the idea of a basic wage is feasible. Just look at countries who have social security, they do fine. I am sad when I see people starving because they cannot feed themselves even if they do have a job. Also if people don't have money to pay for food, rent, etc, etc, then the economy will suffer. The rich don't add much to the economy, they look for the best profit on their money while the poor spend all their money on living.

Everyone is fucked and I see little hope. Just tonight NPR was saying that one in four health care workers and doctors are foreign born. I welcome that. Still, one of the reasons is the cost of education and the destruction of multiple generations saddle with huge debts or generations forgoing an education. Those are symptoms of a diseased society.

I had to update my skill set to keep myself employable several times in my life. There are some occupations that pay well enough to live on but they are not easy. With the high cost of trade school or college, choose wisely. Chasing the job you love is nonsense. Get the cash flow started and don't even thing about playing house till you do. Be prepared for good luck if it comes your way. By prepared, I mean being able to tell an opportunity from a scam. That's how capitalism works. Sadly, a strong back is not much in demand anymore. I don't like seeing my fellow human beings struggle and I do what I can to keep those in my close circle of friends from falling through the cracks but for humanity at large I have no answer. The United States has always been a bit of a carrot and stick game. Good luck.

Well as long as they have a means of distracting us from our own problems or even better the ability to turn us against ourselves then they will continue to get away with doing so.

And unfortunately the majority members of both political parties have in America are being paid to not ignore it but to come up laws to either prevent from us demanding what we need or to punish us once we do so.

People freak out over immigrants coming here to work at a job that neither of the majority races here will ever do again or if we did the famers would be bankrupt before harvest in order to pay the wages that would be required.

Because the market is allowed to gamble on the prices of our food, fuel and even water so they’ll undermine the farmers but still profit from a manipulated system.

And as far as the workers of the retail industries several people a few years ago read an article in parade magazine about how Australia sat down debated and fought over how to raise their minimum wage to a working wage.

And instead of reading the whole article they read the section of some little Caucasian Australian boy who was one year out of high school and working for McDonald’s was making $15.00 ASD an hour and they lost their fucking minds because here $15.00 USD would actually benefit people.

But like I said they didn’t read the whole article to see that this process that Australia was using was estimated to take more than 18 years before it would actually achieve its goal.
So instead we had protestors marching the streets and demanding “ $15 an hour “ and no one seemed to understand where that number came from.
Which sadly says just how much people read The parade magazine insert from the Sunday paper.

But anyway until we change our government and kick the lobbyists out of representatives offices.
Which by the way is the only good damn thing that trump has done. When he put the 5 year waiting period on politicians becoming lobbyists that needs to be extended to 10 years and maybe we’ll see people doing their dam jobs or pass on being a politician in the first place.

B/c of the incredible debt globally forget about improving the lot of the marginalized workers.
In the old days the elites could ship those men off to wars to reduce their numbers.
Don't know what their solution will be this time around.
There will be a great reset.

I remember as a younger person that there were a few people who talked about the "leisure class", or something like that. The idea was that automation would free us to enjoy the free time created by automation. I don't recall if UBI was a result in these discussions or not. The point was that we would all enjoy the life of leisure.

I have seen some arguments against UBI and favoring UBJ (universal basic jobs). The idea here - as I understand it - is that there are craft people, artisans, local farmers and so forth that are filling an economic niche that the Wal-Marts of the world cannot hope to fill. We all desire beautiful things in our environments and have an aesthetic aversion to cheap plastic crap. Why not pay these crafts people a UBI and encourage others to create cottage industries under a UBI plan. Not exactly sure how it all works, but I thought it was an interesting idea.

Not exactly sure how this all fits in, but there you have it.

I see massive populist revolt globally. Automation an robotics will eliminate tens of millions of more jobs in the near future. Imagine the replacement of all cabbies and bus drivers and uber drivers bus drivers . What 10million jobs? The politicians globally have no clue on anything except to divide people for their own power gain.

The globalist need it even pay a livable wage . Tbe developing world continues to reproduce like a agrarian society. I predict massive global violence and soon and we have no global leadership.

Thanks for your comments. I agree with a couple of you about what happens in the meantime. Which is more unemployed people chasing fewer jobs which become increasingly part-time and no benefits, ie. Wal-Mart, convenience store, and McDonald's, until those all become automated. Soylent Green, here we come......It's also interesting that the UBI idea seems to have appeal on this site to both lefties and righties.

We are beyond the point of no-return. There will be millions dying from climate migration.

I think it's already needed, but probably won't happen until after large numbers of people suffer and die early, once the powers that be admit to what the root cause is.

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Universal basic income is looking more and more like something that is going to have to happen sooner or later. Unfortunately, in order to get there, we're going to need some big changes to the way society views work and those not in work - first off, people are going to need to realise that what you do for work and how much it pays do not reflect an individual's worth as a human being. Secondly, we're going to need to accept that full employment simply isn't possible. Thirdly, that choosing to work very little or not at all is not the same as being lazy (in fact, a surprisingly high number of people in places where UBI has been tried use the money to set up small craft workshops and not-for-profit companies, then put a huge amount of time and effort into them). Even more unfortunately, this is going to be hard to achieve and, in the meantime, it's probably very likely that those who own the means of production are going to become very wealthy indeed as more of those of us who do not fight for part-time jobs and accept lower pay simply in order to have some pay.

Ultimately, though, I'm hopeful. Sooner or later there may come a time when production is so close to fully automated and run by AI that everyone is able to have whatever they want whenever they want it. In such a world, there will be no further use for money and, as there will be no want, far less crime.

The fake female governor of iowa will keep victims minimum wage Casey's General Stores Walmart worse 29 hours per week 6 days per week

Actually Hillary Clinton did consider it but was seemingly afraid to make it an issue. She discusses it in her book. Here's a link about it:
[vox.com]