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"To vote is to abdicate." According to Elisée Reclus, to vote is also to betray. And we can add, to vote is also to pollute an already too poisoned Terra. We must heal, not overkill! #allemperorsallproletarians #organizedonotvote #allhumanityforterraprotectivity #peace #truth #coorganization #pluriarchy #terra #earth
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tipi 7 Feb 16
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Fascism, rule 2::: Suppress voting.

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Really, in order to preserve the individual and societal sovereignty, we need to refrain from selling it or giving it away. Humankind must agree on some more just and healthier principles.We do not vote for brothers, in the small family, we think, choose and do, the same should be adopted in the Big Human Family, for the best terraprotectivity.

tipi Level 7 Feb 17, 2019
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i never vote. why encourage the bastards?

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What does that even mean though? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with voting one way or the other, but it would seem that voting is actually the opposite of abdicating, as long as the citizen thinks their vote actually counts. That's another issue we could discuss and it might have to do with why he feels the way he does. I think his words need more explanation. Does he mean that if someone votes that they actually abdicate their responsibility to actually organize or take action in other ways in the community because they think voting will be enough, and in so betrays their community and also pollutes the community by not taking more action? This would be dependent on politicians being corrupt or incompetent, wouldn't it? I believe most of them are corrupt actually.

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Reclus was entitled to his opinion. I think he was full of shit, just like most
philosophers.

To not vote is to relinquish your voice. It is to give away your power.

You can feel any kind of way you want to about it. I do not agree with you.
I think your position is as full of shit as Reclus's.

what if your voice means nothing? like now.

@callmedubious In the grand scheme of things, none of our voices mean anything. Our existence means nothing. So fucking what?

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I see it as a duty to vote for the best candidates. Our system does need a bit of tweaking, though. We need to be sure our voting machines are not capable of being hacked. I think we should also have a law that people below a certain IQ should not be allowed to vote. This would keep rednecks (people who are proud of their own ignorance) from electing idiots into office.

Interesting idea regarding a needed test to vote. It just seems like something that would hurt varying social economic classes, including first and second generational immigrants further reducing their voice. I think the issue regarding our system isn't the hackable voting boxes, as scary and terrible as that is for the Democratic Voting process, but the format for becoming a viable candidate.

Voting machines have been shown to be very easily hackable.

Your best candidate might be the worst candidate for someone else. That's obvious.

States already have something in place to reject the right to vote to people who are "mentally incapacitated". Should all rednecks be disavowed the right to vote? What you suggest is almost tantamount to eugenics.

@Seeker3CO That I could get behind, but I would also add a minimum requirement of involvement in local politics

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I cannot but think something is being missed here, could you restate your position.

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I was going to comment my dislike for your point but it seems everything has been pretty much covered below, lol !

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To not vote is to let those who do vote dictate what happens. I suggest voting AND organizing.

Dietl Level 7 Feb 16, 2019
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so don't vote? what a fucked-up message! do you expect anyone with a brain to go along with this?

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I don't understand this... Voting is wrong?!

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