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This is what this country is up against. ‘Fox News propaganda isn’t just unethical-research shows it is enormously influential.’
www.vox.com/2019/3/4/18249847/fox-news-effect-swing-elections

Freedompath 9 Mar 4
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TV is influential! Great! Good to know!

This was about Fox News!

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Democrats and Republicans both are WAY too myopic, too polarized, too small minded, and neither side believes in freedom. One side thinks all change is good, the other side thinks all change is bad. One side seems to think we should run the whole planet like a giant hospital, the other side seems to think that those who cannot produce as much as they consume should be sterillized, them murdered anyway.
One side thinks we should all just get a check from the government to not work, while the other side thinks anyone willing can become rich if they just get up off their butt. Don't buy into this tribal BS! FOX news IS biased, but other "news" sources have also become unstated opinion sources. WAKE UP This republican democrat thing is a way to choose sides to fight with each other. I am not thrilled with Trump. but that is too long a thread to expect anyone to read here. www.lp.org

The pendulum does not fall as you describe! If you break-out the facts for both parties...you will not find that the Democrats are rebel rousers and at least they can break a problem down and put humanity first! The Democrats and Republicans are not equal!! Not if you have been keeping abreast of information!

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We need to bring back the fair and balanced news act.
[en.wikipedia.org]

That makes good sense. Otherwise we are just being crammed full of information depending on where we get our news and information! Since I cut off my tv, and read all my news, except YouTube pieces, I feel much more in charge of my emotions, concerning the news. When I must incorporate the emotions of the person reporting on something...I am stretched past my limit!

@Freedompath They say when the heart (emotion) is being used, the brain is not.

It's good you select from a variety of news sources.

What is being passed as political news today is realy propaganda.

It does NOT make good sense at all! That is the thin end of the wedge. This is a complete totalitarian take over! Liable and slander laws should be enforced! People can consider the source ( as they do) but if you are suggesting the jailing of people for saying things others dispute you are VERY dangerous! This is a 100% dumb headed idea!

@JOHNGALT I think you completely misunderstood my comment.

How is it not good sense to bring back fair and balanced journalism?

@dare2dream It IS good sense but this is something provided by the private sector. As internet takes over more attention, cable news is becoming ridiculously biased (on both sides) in a desperate effort to get people to condemn cable alternatives. There is grave danger to the first amendment if people want to start prosecuting others for opinions. A news organization cat cut its; own throat by ending up wrong about things. We already have slander and liable laws, which do make sense. The urge to muzzle others is wrong headed! People can say what they think about facts and their opinions. For example I am pro-choice but I am very against the New York decision which literally legalized murder,
It is not in the best onterest of dialogue to shut anyone up ESPECIALLY if they represent things that are disagreeable. Ideas do not dissappear because the gulag does not like them! www.lp.org

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One ray of hope with this onslaught of professional propaganda is the fairly large number of people who recognize it and object. When the same thing happened in 1930’s Germany, people had no historical experience with it and believed it (it didn’t hurt that anti-semitism was then considered both normal and acceptable). I fear that it will take years to undo the damage that Fox and Trump have caused, but I also hope that over time most people will come to understand how awful it was and develop an immunity of sorts.

We hope...but, observing some of family and friends...their brain functioning is not going to be easily fixed! That is not something that can get fixed over night!

The voice of reason. Thank you!
Suggesting that opinion is criminal is REALLY going in an insane direction (like someone else did above)

Read "Ominous Parralells" by Dr.Leonard Peikopf

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I always ask the channel be changed when in a restaurant, doctors office, dentist office, anywhere Fox is on the TV. We have to fight back with our voices and wallets to help stamp out this propaganda channel. Do it, you'll feel great when they change it. I've only had to walk out of one eating establishment who wouldn't change the channel. ?

Good for you...I have ask at physical therapy and was told it could not be changed! I will leave other places, though!

@Freedompath They can change it. They just choose not to. Why not tell them it interferes with your healing process because it upsets you? ? Might make them think a little.

@Redheadedgammy well, it really did!

You don't need to try to "stamp out" anything! Just don't watch it. If you really have more time and energy watch it, make notes, do research, and then combat it point by point. realize that I have been doing that a long time and it is an unending, unfinishable, and thankless task. I never like to have discourse with parrots (from any party) I like Ted Talk style discussion where someone who has real insight and thinks for themself has something to say. "Stamping out FOX TV" is just crowd speak for "Hey I am willing to say outrageous things to ID myself and validate others so they will like me!"

@Freedompath could not is BS and we all know that! Tell them they are liars who just tell you they are unwilling to change it! If they say that just ask them to change it anyway!

@JOHNGALT I have done that especially when I was having a lot of medical appointments! Now, I just avoid TVs!

@Freedompath I just reach up and manually change it. Sometimes I get cheers!

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love fox - the other news sources are far too biased to watch.

gater Level 7 Mar 4, 2019

You are kidding me, ofcourse?

@Freedompath sorry - not kidding

I agree.

@gater then you have been watching to much Fox News! And, if I could follow you around for few days, I could identify where you have run off in the weeds, it is a brain functioning! Maybe, you have less value on yours than I do?

@Trajan61 then stop claiming that you are a free thinker...free thinkers are not found watching Fox News! These are slaves!

@Freedompath lol - do you do standup?

@gater not for you!

@gater I am as serious as a ‘heart attack!’

@Freedompath aww - don't be too serious, you look like a sweet grandma that should be baking cookies 🙂

@Freedompath What does watching Fox News have to do with being a free thinker? Absolutely nothing!

@gater i don’t cook and I am tougher than a leather strap!

@gater, @Trajan61 now..,you ask? Since I am not in the mood to ruffle your feathers...do your own research on the brain (that you need to take with you into old age)!

@gater She looks like a woman that knows how to handle herself to me. 🙂

@Freedompath alright - I can do that - what about the brain should I research?

@gater at this late date..,start anywhere! There is so much now...

FOX is biased, but if everyone knows it how can it be accused of nefarious influence? The people drawn to it WANT a more conservative perspective. When liberals call for censorship (1st amendment) they will not stop with the 1st amendment. They seem to think that ANYTHING in service of their agenda (NONE of them define what it is) comes under the heading that "the ends justifies the means"

Right. Like Fox.. is not “biased”. What a joke.
That kind of opinion is what one gets hen one watches ONLY Fox. Tried a neutral news source for awhile, @gater. Get some truth for a change.

@Freedompath They are all biased. MSNBC and FOX and CNN have become very biased and mere cheerleaders for their respective sides. Al Jazeera might be more useful.

@Santanaman9, @JOHNGALT Fox is pro America, the other sources are so far left, and so hate filled, they would love to see America fail just so they can feel their hate is justified.

@JOHNGALT non of them just give the details and let it go...they must elaborate with their personalities thrown in...so what news they do deliver...must be processed through their emotions and then my own! That is why I read almost all my news, except excerpts on you-tube! I think better that way!

@gater ‘Fox is pro-American,’ if you do not wish to rise above your carnal abilities, then stick with Fox News! They remind me of the ‘tent preachers,’ come to town and they get the attendees activated by their emotions...because half of their nature was never developed and this ‘traveling preacher,’ put HIS ideas about life into them...and off they go...they found an emotion that they had not had before! That is scamming, my friend! Fox News is scamming!

Fox is good when there is a dem in the white house, but not when there is a Trump there.
They are every bit as biased as MSNBC or CNN

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I think that the repubs will win this one with "The Second Civil War"

Not, if the ‘other people,’ can stop it, and they are still the majority! It’s the enormous amount of guns, that would be a REAL worry!

@Freedompath I hope you're right.

Is this becoming a political forum. I thought it was an atheist dating site

@JOHNGALT It's other stuff too.

@JOHNGALT This is dating politically minded agnostics (if it works out).

@Freedompath For pit sake I'm qualified as "Here for Community"

@Croebheir looks like you don’t need a date! Give your ‘dance card,’ to someone who needs it! ?

@Freedompath You just do not understand history, philosophy, game theory, human nature, or law. Aside from that you have opinions based solely upon emotion transferred from your like minded echo chamber.

@JOHNGALT well, it looks like my opinion counts for nothing in your big picture...I am not here for you! I sure can’t read into the future as you can, but I have a right to express from wherever...same as you!

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It makes me very angry that they have such influence.

Me too...and how to stop their ‘dumbing down,’ of American?

Then you better free your mind instead. If ya go carryin; pictures of chairman Mao, ya ain;t gonna make it with anyone anyhow!

@JOHNGALT there is always someone going ‘your way,’ all one has to do is be alert!

Create your counter-influence!

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They're not news..they brain and soul eaters..

CNN (communist news network) is pure propaganda as is MSNBC and most of the other main media except Fox.

@Trajan61 I keep wondering why it is you conservatives come to these groups yet block many of us from your conservative groups? What are you afraid of?

@Redheadedgammy We conservative’s are so badly outnumbered on this website if we allowed all the liberals to come into our group we’d be overrun with liberal trolls.

@redheadedgammy Trajan61, a prime example of The Fux effect..

Fox is the propaganda wing of the Republican party.

@Trajan61 I see, but it's fine for conservative trolls to come to the other groups eh? Talk about "snowflakes". LOL

How do I NOT see anything you ever type again?

@Redheadedgammy I think that is also disagreeable!

@Redheadedgammy, @tnorman1236 IF you REALLY want to engage ME on politics you will have a lot of surprises, and a lot of real original thinking to do. www.lp.org I am NOT a repugnican or a democrap.

@Redheadedgammy, @tnorman1236, @Trajan61 TRUE! 100% and those viewers are attracted to that bias. Jordan Petersen posits that cable news is losing attention to the internet, SO this the boutique nature of the news, catering to specific audiences based upoin known preference patterns! Can we expect anything different?

@JOHNGALT simple..block me..

@JOHNGALT I have no idea what you're trying to communicate here. I usually do not converse with people who don't complete their bio.

@Trajan61 that is bazaar...I wonder what criteria you put together to come up with that analogy? If a person wants to maintain his own sanity...they must weed out what is real and what is elaboration! Even, when I relay facts, I sometimes add my 2cts worth in...on purpose or accidentally! So... I never swallow things that are told to me...’whole hog!’

@Trajan61, @JOHNGALT Jordan Peterson, has an opinion like all of us. And after watching him from his beginning, I FOUND his bises! Yes, he has them, and they don’t work for me!

@JOHNGALT, @Trajan61 you should be so lucky to be over run with liberal trolls!

@Redheadedgammy This is the open politics forum, hardly the same as being in a group.

Keep an eye on the enemy!

@Freedompath I disagree with Jordan about Religion, but your opinions are so emotion, and crowd driven that they no longer interest me.

@Freedompath, @Redheadedgammy conservatives, like "liberals" are totally tribal and almost everyone on both sides is much more interested in the siccess of their team, and failure of the opposite team then focus on little else. All their time and effort is spent on tense vitriol and they see each other like the red team and the blue team. Anything and everything the otherside says is wrong, and everything your side says is right. almost 100% on both sides profess to agree with almost 100% of that party platform. AND most people are ready to argue about political things and have very strong opnions they refuse to be shaken from without sufficient knowledge to even really know what is going on.

@JOHNGALT don’t RESPOND...wouldn’t that work for you? It would for me!

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