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I’ve been in a relationship with a single mother for nearly 3 years now and her grown up children who still live at home with her are super protective of their mother. They’ve made life very difficult for us indeed.

Anyway tomorrow night I’ve asked to stay the night at hers and this will be the first time we will actually spend the night together. The thing is it’s not guaranteed she has stated that it may not happen it all depends on her kids. She asked me not to get upset if it doesn’t happen.

I can’t think how else I would feel but suppressing my feelings would damage me I think. Now I’m left thinking that it probably will not come to pass that we spend the night together tomorrow as she has laid the bed rock for it.

I have it in mind that i won’t let it show and to try and be mature about it but I am feeling low already as I’m fully expecting to remain the live out lover for the foreseeable future.

I don’t handle the loneliness too well but she seems fine with it. I wish sometimes I wasn’t so in love with her as it is a love that brings much pain.

Nardi 7 Mar 22
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You're filling a predefined space in her life. It is a known size... If it doesn't seem to be a good fit for you, I doubt you can do much to change that.

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I'm a "single" mom (I'm not single, but my partner is not my child's father). When I was dating I could only go out on certain nights, and no one stayed at my home when my son was home. Until I met my partner. For him I was willing to make changes. Not just willing, it felt natural. If she's not willing to make changes (especially with kids 16 & up) it sounds like maybe you aren't the one.

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In my opinion, 16 is not a grown up child. I don't think that I would have thought it appropriate to have someone sleep over with a child that age in the house either. The home is their only home. They need to feel comfortable in it.

i guess so. i left home aged 15 but it was wrong

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My kids always came first. I barely even dated as a single parent. It's not really fair to them.

Are you still a single parent then?

I'm a grandmother of a kid attending college on a full scholarship. My kids have been grown and out of the house for a long time.

Also, I didn't have four, I had two. But they leave when they leave, hopefully as adults. Sometimes they come back, lol! It's really not an easy world for young people out there. They need all the quality parenting that they can get.

@CaroleKay so you’ve remained a single parent then?

Lol! I guess so, parenting never ends. ❤

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When you take on a partner with kids - you take on the whole package - for better or worse. I hear that you love her, but I also hear a somewhat clingy attitude. If you don't handle loneliness that well - it's not her job to fill it all in. Might you be too focused oh her ?

If a closer, one-on-one situation is the only one you'll be happy with, this woman may not be able to provide that right now. Only you can decide what you're willing to tolerate.

I might be guilty of focusing on her but what kind of relationship would it be if I didn’t. Of course I want to be with her and of course I miss her when I’m not with her. I am also patient and very helpful. The only problem now is that I am finding it increasingly difficult to see a future where we’re together and I posted here to hear other view points in case I missed something obvious. So the posts which outline it’s my problem and not hers and it’s her house not mine might as well also say it’s her life and not mine which completely negates any point to any relationship that goes beyond casual flings. I don’t get it.

@Nardi It just seems that until/unless all her kids are grown and gone - you may be getting from her, all she is willing/able to give. And that may not be enough. A tough crossroad.

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It sounds as if her children are in control and she likes it that way. Eventually this may change the way you feel about her, but it's doubtful that she will change the way she behaves. The ball is in your court.

Deb57 Level 8 Mar 22, 2019
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I think that there is a lot more to this story.

Yes there is of course. But it would be a long story. I met her as she broke it off with her husband. She thought I would be a quick secret fling but we fell in love and I was a secret at first. Then slowly it all came out over a year or so. Her children hated me from the get go but they were not the kids of the man she was married to. They really gave us a hard time and still do but not in the same way now. I always include them in festive stuff like Easter Christmas etc but they never reciprocate. My partners brother, mother and friends all like me very much. But her kids...

I always go above and beyond to help her in so many ways. Not only because I want her family to see I am good for her but also because I love her and want to take care of her.

Anyway I been trying to get in to her life and it just seems impossible but she claims things are getting better even if I can’t tell.

I have set a deadline in my mind this coming summer to sort this out one way it another which is why I pushed for this sleep over to happen but now it feels like it won’t happen and that leaves me feeling hopeless.

@Nardi These are not small children. I have been through this twice before. I can understand her not wanting you to stay there with the children at home, but there is no reason I can see why she can't spend the night at your place occasionally These children are only thinking about themselves (the 16 and 19 year olds I can understand) and not her. This will not change. I have had this happen with children in their thirties. This is on her to fix, and evidently she doesn't care to change this. It is up to you of course, but l would run.

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Sounds to me like she needs to put her foot down with her kids, but you need to put your foot down with her as well. It’s time to let her know that she needs to talk to her kids and enforce some ground rules when it comes to her relationship with you, or you’ll have to move on with your life without her as a part of it.

So long as you are not being abusive or neglectful to them or their mother, and so long as she is dividing her time fairly between you and them, your relationship with their mother is no more their business than it is anybody else’s. It’s long past time to make that fact known.

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You say the children are grown up...but how grown up? What are their ages? I presume that they will at some time leave the nest to make their own way in life, and become independent adults, but it’s just a matter of how long that is going to be. After three years of being in a relationship with their mother, and presumably having some sort of dialogue wirh them...even though you have indicated they haven’t made life easy, I think you should actually speak directly to them. Tell them how you feel about their mother in frank terms, that you love her and wish them to have a proper relationship, which includes staying the night. I can understand that she doesn’t wish to upset her children, but it’s ureasonable of them to expect to be able to keep their mother from having a mature and loving relationship.. It is time to speak out, or just resign yourself to a very unfulfilling relationship for years to come.

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Doesn't sound like she’s alone.. but you are. It’s up to her to explain things to her kids, that’s life. Does she feel she’s being ‘protective’ of them by not allowing them to feel the least bit uncomfortable?

When my parents split it wasn’t all that difficult to see they planned to continue their lives, and I don’t think it scarred us..

Varn Level 8 Mar 22, 2019
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There are just two things a parent can give kids: love and wings. The second is harder. Sometimes you have to staple the wings on their back and give them a shove.
This is the work this woman is having trouble with. I doubt you can help her with it. They would all just resent you. I think you have to accept the situation and decide whether you really want to be part of it for a long time to come. You can't change her, you can only change you.

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