I agree. there are illegal acts, immoral acts and unethical acts but sins should remain in the fantasy world of religion.

@Antifred sin is that which god cannot abide. I'd look up the actual scripture reference, but really don't give a shit too.

@Antifred neat thing about the bible is it contradicts itself in so many places. Verse I was thinking of is old testament, which rarely jives with the new, so we're actually both "right".

@Antifred no, it's the establishment of an entirely new religion, not a different president. Fucking A.

They were subject to invasion. A lot. They also did a lot of invading.

You should run that theory of Jesus being the sacrifice past current Jews, they'll get a good laugh out of it. Jesus, BTW, doesn't even tick off half the things the messiah is supposed to.

There is still at least one Jewish sect that still performs animal sacrifices. But most see it as an outdated practice they don't need to do anymore for some reason. Ask them why.

@Antifred first, there's an edit button so you don't have to multiple reply.

Second, what the fuck is this gibberish? Why are you bringing up widows and orphans? Someone switch out your meds or change a dosage?

Third, just because they use the same word doesn't mean any prophecy has been fulfilled. It's almost like you think the psycobable in the bible is true, which is insane.

Anyways, this is turning even more pointless than anticipated, so go ahead and have the last word, which I doubt will make a lick of sense.

Yes indeed: Matthew 21:1-7, Mark 11:1-7, Luke 19:29-35

I was discussing this issue in a hypothetical sort of fashion, the way that one would discuss a fictional character. How historical the Gospels are is an entirely separate issue.

@lpetrich Oh.

@KKGator You don't need to say "Oh", you could say what is the dam' use of hypothetical.

Yes, his Temple temper tantrum: Matt 21:12-13, Mark 11:15-17, Luke 19:45-46, John 2:13-16

Jesus Christ vs. a certain fig tree: Matt 21:18-19, Mark 11:12-14

When I first read it, it struck me as extremely irrational, since it was not the fault of that fig tree that it did not have figs for him. I still think that. In any case, if JC was God, then he could easily have poofed into existence whatever he might have wanted to eat.

Most depictions of Jesus' temptations in the desert are pretty close, from what I can remember. It all essentially amounts to "Satan offers Jesus more and more stuff up to and including dominion over the world if he will bow down and worship/serve Satan, but Jesus turns it all down because it's ultimately already his and was never really Satan's in the first place." I know the Mary Magdalene thing was invented for "The Last Temptation of Christ", but I only watched the first few minutes of that film and don't remember where it was that Jesus experienced this temptation. It seems like I read a few plot summaries here and there, but my brain seems to have filed those under "Information No Longer Deemed Important". I think that the Last Temptation thing was set after the desert temptations, i.e. very shortly before the crucifixion, but I'm fuzzy on that. They may have changed the timeline for the film or done some kind of a flashback. I only saw The Passion of the Christ once and don't remember much about Satan in that other than that he was always taunting Jesus and showed up with some kind of snake.