@BohoHeathen because you say so?

@BohoHeathen again, because you say so? Hmmm, didn't know the General and Hellos group was your property. Look, you claim that you didn't assume, thus youvarevsaying something as a fact, you soynd like Trump, "many people don't know or I have talked with many people." How many, 10? 20? All the responses in this post seem to know. If the subject of homeopaty and natural medicine makes you lose your sleep at night, hey, be my guest and make up all the stories you want, after all you "own" this group and feel entitled to tell anybody to not comment, continue with your not assumption of alternate realities.

@BohoHeathen again with your assumptions. When will you learn?

bollocks

@Moravian What is right to you is bollocks to me, and the vice versa. Everybody has the truth they want to believe in. I have used homeopathy all my life since childhood and it worked better than Allopathic medicine. In many countries like Germany, India, Allopathic doctors are not trusted but Homeopaths are very trusted.

@St-Sinner They were invented by a quack doctor in the 18th century and every scientific study has shown them to be no more effective than placebos but if you want to waste your money on them that's up to you.

@Moravian like I said, my belief is BS to you and vice versa. There are millions in the world who believe that Allopathy is a capitalist tool to exploit people and it only treats symptoms and not the root cause.

@St-Sinner I agree with you to an extent that "big pharma" exploits the situation to push overpriced drugs on GPs. an example is the opioid epidemic in parts of the USA, but modern medicines have increased lifespan and almost eliminated the death of children in western countries.

Natural remedies also have a place for minor ailments but homeopathy is pseudo science and has no place in the modern world.

She didn’t say they were equivalent; that was exactly the distinction she pointed out. Go to the doctor for a flu, but there’s are natural remedies for most mild symptoms that work as well if not better than the over the counter stuff many times. She does advocate for medical science in the case of any serious injury or illness based on everything else she’s posted (see the meme I stole from her below), try not to put so many words in her mouth.

@Wurlitzer I'm not going to sit and dance around the synonym and semantic game all day here. She attempts to legitimize Naturopathy. Using some remedies for mild symptoms that come from natural sources isn't Naturopathy.

apricot seeds contain oxidants (cyanide) which makes them a form of chemotherapy.
our immune systems can't kill cancer cells but oxidants can.
when i found out that i had an aggressive prostate cancer(almost 7 yrs ago, now cancer free) i knew it would be weeks before my surgery so bought some apricot seeds from a health food store & started eating a few of them daily.
cancer cells will double in number every 4 weeks. one cancer cell can become a tumor the size of a grape in 2 yrs.
did the apricot seeds destroy some cancer cells & slow the tumor growth? i'll never know but i don't think they did any harm & i'm still here.

@callmedubious - Sounds to me like you would have had the same result with prayer.

@FrostyJim ,
do you even know the difference between an oxidant & an antioxidant?
don't bother replying.
i won't waste time on a closed mind.

You’re saying that no valid remedy for anything has ever been derived from a natural source? None of the medicines before chemistry and pills ever worked for anything, ever?

@Wurlitzer
No I’m not saying that. You said that.
I said both are pseudo science.

I’ve been trained as a naturopath in Chinese herbal medicines and I’ve been trained in western medicine, which is my current job.

There are no studies or current scientific method. Old knowledge passed from person to person. Some of which is good, but much of it is bad in my opinion: the fascination with tiger paws, gallbladders of bears, armadillos, rhino horns. That’s just Tom foolery there.

I also hold a chemistry and biology degree. There are a lot of plants that work the same as pills.
Some of these I use personally such as tumeric, mint, white willow bark, mau hung, red ginsing.

But it’s still pseudo science: a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.

There’s even pseudo science in western medicine if you’re not careful.

@BohoHeathen
Yes that’s true of plants
And once we isolate certain constituents we turn those into medicines. Those medicines are studied in great detail.
There are no medical scientific studies on plants for a variety of reasons. It would be cool if they did, but they don’t.

Now we’ve seen great results in Medicine with turmeric as an anti inflammatory and zinc as an anti viral
But it’s still speculation
Therefor it’s pseudoscience
I have a degree in naturopathy from a reputable school. I’m telling you there’s no science involved. That’s why I don’t practice, amongst other problems with it.

The claims made about marijuana are highly over exaggerated. It does 2 things very well and that’s about it.

@Allamanda
Yes, the main reason I do t practice is because the majority of practitioners are nut jobs.
There’s a lady in town with a naturopathic degree that diagnosis people with a machine that you touch.
R2D2 just tells her the problem through electrical signals.
I really love the naturopaths that have you hold different bags of food to tell you what you’re allergic to.
Big Mood

@darthfaja I see good, glad the argument is more semantic and nuanced than that. Surely the plants that became the basis for many chemical cures have had the scientific method applied to them, yet are still technically naturopathic right? Obviously there’s a lot of bunk in Chinese naturopathy but that’s not the kind the OP is referring to. When we learn something ancestrally and test it for ourselves, and research and find that it is the basis of medically known cures itself, that is in some way, if small and incomplete, a rudimentary form of the scientific method as far as I’m concerned. We’ve seen for ourselves that it helped and if it didn’t we didn’t live long enough or successfully enough to pass it down. (With the obvious exceptions of crazy superstition shit like rhino horns, and people still keeping those traditions alive can be chalked up to desperation for a boner + lack of education, which shit, you’re lucky if you don’t start a war over a powder keg combo like that haha)

@BohoHeathen in American it’s illegal to sell ‘ medicine’ disguised as something else.

You can’t give someone a placebo unless they sign up for a study and sign their legal rights away agreeing that they may be given s placebo.

Perhaps homeopathy doesn’t fall into that window.

@BohoHeathen They add other stuff to it, like duck heart or liver, and whatever they swept off the floor. It isn't all sugar, just mostly.

I do agree that there are an abundance of old school natural remedies that work rather well. one comes to mind is natural honey from your area for combating allergies, and many more. But Homeopathy is a different ball of wax.

@BohoHeathen lol if you reposted it then probably; I’ve smoked since then. But everyone here still needs to see it

@BohoHeathen Couldn't agree more.