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Best Idea I had seen in years...

GipsyOfNewSpain 9 July 9
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True Story... I was never a model student... as a H.S. Senior I was it... I was the Big Pharma Local Representative. I did treated teachers with respect and even one apologized to me at the end of the year for her "Vent Speech" she gave when I showed up for first time to the class 2 weeks into the year as a School Transfer and out of uniform with a Huge Afro. The class was Spanish Literature. Well, I loved the class and became her best student... among books studied was "El Canto Del Mio Cid" written in Old Castillian, El Lazarillo de Tormes, The Classics of Old Spanish Literature. I was already writing Poetry so I was in Heaven on that class. But I behaved under my own rules. I was the only student that started class at 9:50 AM because I dropped my first class that was Prep for College Science. Yet I was there every morning by 7:30. When I attended College My Then GF did her Practice of English Teacher in my H.S. Being a Young, Hip, Pretty "H.S. Kids" were giving a hard time at times. I went to pick her up one day and everything changed for her. Those guys that look up to me as Sophs were now Seniors. They still remember me from my Days and their attitude toward her changed when they found out she was my GF. She was like... "Who the hell was you on that school, they are even carrying my books and if someone gets out of line, now they put the guy on his place quick, she couldn't believe it". The English teacher she was assigned to was also my teacher and I had a good relationship with her because I knew enough of the language not to need the class or struggle. In Puerto Rico English is taught in Public School as a Second Language. I know how bad students can behave. My long time GF in DC teaches Latin Dancing in the Public School System in DC. They are "unruly" as any Inner City Wild Specimen could be. I myself realized early in College that I was not cut to be a Teacher. Teachers do not get paid enough and even at times their lives are in danger with some of those students. The Reward of seeing a good student develop is too little for what they face with the not that good student or let's put it... with the bad student experience. For us who grew up without Cell Phone Cameras may be Shocking for Body Cam on a teacher but for those kids that everything stupid they do is recorded by one of their peers... Body Cam will be Biz as Usual. Not a Shock at all. They are already there. They had already conditioned themselves with their constant Selfies... They are the Selfie Culture after all. Time to Protect the Teachers while they are still teaching... once they quit will be too late.

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A part of me likes this idea... and a part of me wonders how smart it would be to condition children to constant surveillance by an authority... conditioning/preparing them for a 1984 type of civilization.

I reckon you never been a teacher or instructor of kids.

@GipsyOfNewSpain I have it on good authority that in my local school district, where I drove the bus, that some of the kids bully the teachers as well as the bus drivers and monitors. No surprise on my part, as it all comes back to the principals and school district officials not having the balls to stand up to the parents. Besides bad parenting, part of the problem in my city is that there are many families with too much money and starter mansions, so the district is also afraid of getting sued by some of the affluent parents.

@GipsyOfNewSpain I don't like to be around kids. They annoy me. So no, I've never subjected myself to the torture of teaching children.

@snytiger6 Yeah, I discovered that in College when they assigned me 6 kindergarten students in a Physical Education Class.... You could see a grown man cry... It was an eye opener to all of us trying to become Teachers. I knew I couldn't handle them daily as a career.

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Nice thought but some parents are idiots

bobwjr Level 10 July 9, 2019

In my area, too many of the are rich shitheads, besides being assholes.

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Wouldn't make any difference in most cases. The parents of the bad kids are usually in complete denial about their kid's behavior. I worked for several years as a school bus driver and even when we had video evidence of the kid's behavior, the parents would usually refuse to believe their kid was misbehaving and instead bully the general manager of the bus company and blame the driver for lying about their kid or somehow provoking their kid into acting badly. The main reason I quit driving the bus is that I got sick of how the bus company, pressured by the school district, kept increasing the survellience on the drivers while at the same time we drivers got less support each school year from the school district officials, including the principals, in dealing with student discipline on the buses. I got sick of how many times I would write up a kid for conduct violations and never get any action on the kids, even if I had video evidence of it. But if we ever acted inappropriately towards a student on the bus, there was always hell to pay for it and very quickly too. I got sick of the double standard. The kids all knew they were above punishment, but we sure weren't, so we had no authority with the bad kids.

That's why a lot of the drivers I worked with quit recently and more will quit in late August. The real problem is the school district won't stand up to the bad parents and bad kids. Instead they side against the drivers and that's why we quit. It all began when they outsourced the busing a decade ago, making the bus drivers third party employees of the district instead of part of the system. Made it much easier for them to throw us under the bus, pun intended. It pissed me off that the school district would not let parents see the video evidence, citing privacy rights of other kids on the bus, but would let the principals see it. Many times the principals refused to watch the video evidence after we wrote kids up because they didn't want to have to act on the evidence. Chickenshit cowards.....Outsourcing busing service and the first line of the bus discipline process to a contractor company may distance the school district some from handling the problem of bus discipline, but it doesn't solve or remove the problem. But it helps the school district take less heat from the parents, which, besides lowering costs for the school district, is why they outsource.

@altschmerz Yup. I had heard about this case when it first happened. I was bullied a few times myself by kids, including a high school boy. I recently saw him in a parking lot of a grocery store and he ran away from me after I yelled a sarcastic "Hi, how ya doing Jack?" at him. The punk knew that now that he's graduated and I am no longer driving the bus, I can basically tee off on him verbally whenever I see him in public as long as I don't follow him (stalking) or raise a ruckus inside a business, which could get me kicked out or banned from there. The little punk isn't so brave once it's man to man out on the streets and he can't hide behind being a school student anymore. He could go cry to his mom or even the school, but they wouldn't care anymore now that he's no longer their problem. When I see kids like that these days after they are graduated, I almost wish they would take a swing at me, because I would love to clean their clocks and walk away scot free.

@altschmerz Dats the fact, Jack....

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I agree with @girlwithsmiles and then I'd add that so many parents want to blame their child's behavior on anyone but themselves or the child. As with so many other things in our society "It's someone elses fault"

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I have to say I agree with the whole idea, except getting rid of all of the cameras, last time I looked when somebody shot somebody with a camera they didn't even get a flesh wound. But they can be held personally responsible for their actions.

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Not a bad idea!

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I'm more interested in how their parents act around the kids, that's where a lot of that behaviour comes from.

I couldn't agree more

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Cameras every where, what we need is to ban them . Do we really want a world where everything you do from cradle to grave is on camera?

On a Criminal Society it is a Must!!!! Welcome to the 21st Century.

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