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How come there are so many religious idiots in America? And why is it if a Muslim kills people he is a terrorist but when he is white religious he is called mentally unstable?

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'And why is it if a Muslim kills people he is a terrorist but when he is white religious he is called mentally unstable?'

'A few reasons probably

1. Religion isn't popularly seen as a "mental instability"
2. Terrorist kill out of discrimination, not all of the other killings are
3. Most of the whites are not part of a larger organization that intends to continue its attacks. They are just a singular unstable person.'

These are not reasons but excuses crafted by the US propaganda machine or media to continue stigmatization of Muslims and Islam to allow their government to keep fighting their wars against Muslims. This is what is sustaining the 'western world', these wars that are keeping defense, finance, pharmaceutical, tech, construction, media and etc. industries in business.

@Silvereyes, you are critical of US government on many issues, and rightly so. Please re-consider your position in the 'terrorist muslim' area also.

Below is a link to an article I wrote regarding Charlie Hebdo, it discusses a few things that may interest you.
https://gandholi.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/I-am-charlie-is-not-about-charlie/

Maya405 Level 5 Nov 15, 2017
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Thank you for your thoughtful response and I read the article you attached.

I will give you this: sometimes the media humanizes the individual when they are a more favorable social class vs. when they are not. They throw their bias into everything. I am aware of this fact and do not like it one bit.

The reasons I included were my own speculation, though. Not ones I pulled from the US government. Some of this labeling is coming from the media- not the government itself.
My conclusion was not whether it is right or wrong, they are merely some of the reasons why it is happening. Not saying that it is the correct thing to do.

That said, I am critical of the Muslim religion. At the moment, I find it to be more threatening than any other religion. But, I do support freedoms. Just not ones that violate human rights or act in violent ways. Religion should not be a complete free pass to act or do whatever they want. Some of those actions violate human rights and some are just outright violent.

Now one thing I think is that if the media would stop throwing their bias around, the world would be a little less confused on things.
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The shooter responsible for the church shooting in Texas was an atheist unfortunately. I'm not sure if he was mad at his mother in law who attended that church or at religious people in general but he had a history of mental problems.

Harleyman Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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Who said he was an atheist?
According to Snopes, the atheist claim is false..




https://www.snopes.com/texas-church-shooter-atheist-dnc-payroll/


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systematically dumbed down by the media, and religion. the 1% have us right where they want us, divided and stupid.

MichaelSpinler Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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Damned if I know !

evergreen Level 5 Nov 14, 2017
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You got your nut jobs in every corner of the earth. Muslim killings are in the name of their cult system as with some others but the so called extremist white gun happy, racist, radical, that is driven by not being mentally stable so they blame it on.

mistymoon77 Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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I think that most of those mass shootings are motivated more by hate and anger, than they are by religion. Plus I think it's more important to your government that the arms companies who make guns and ammunition can make a profit, than it is for the people they supposedly work for, those who voted for them, live their lives without getting killed in a gun related crime. Gun control doesn't mean no guns at all, it just means that people who shouldn't get their hands on guns don't.

pfreddie62 Level 4 Nov 14, 2017
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The Air Force dropped the ball on that one as they failed to inform the ATF of his problems while in the Air Force.
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If it is a white person (religious or not) POTUS puts the blame on the mentally ill. Not all people suffering from mental illness problems kill people. Mentally ill people with guns kill people. The one think connecting these killings is guns.

BobLang Level 4 Nov 14, 2017
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The media is the enemy. Your 5 pm news Brainwash people into a reality that does not represent everyone. Its very easy for a reporter to find a story in the hood, compared to the suburbs.
The same things happen in the suburbs, but just not as public.Though I am a medical professional, I will always be associated with Negativity.....
Thanks to the Media.

twshield Level 5 Nov 14, 2017
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It seems that the current government has forgotten more about the original Constitution than most of us ever knew in the first place.

ErichZannIII Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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Obama was the one who disregarded the constitution. Look at the Iranian deal. Obama did that on his own without congress. Trump turned it over to congress to decide. Also Obama abused his authority on the Clean Power Plan as he had no right to do that on his own like he did.
Uh huh... Obama a CONSTITUTIONAL lawyer was so unqualified. But that dingbat Sarah Palin and her tea party version of the constitution was just so spot on! Hareleyman... you might have rejected the purple punch of the religious but you sure have guzzled a barrel of republican purple punch
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I think the rationalization goes something like this: The Muslim is considered more of an "other" than someone who looks like me and follows my same religion. Therefore I have to dissociate from them, even if they are doing the same thing, and excuse the other.

SteveB Level 5 Nov 14, 2017
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I agree that we do have a significant amount of religious fundamentalists who are incapable of seeing the bigger picture of the harm of religion as a whole. Cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is why people see someone who looks like them as an "exception to the rule" while saying that all muslims are the same. They're scared that the biggest threat to their safety and the safety of their family and friends is so close to home. It's always amazing to me that in the U.S. a Christian theocracy is seen as a positive meanwhile sharia law is seen as a negative when it's just "someone else's theocracy"

Delaney18 Level 3 Nov 14, 2017
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We may have too much religion in our government but we don't hold a candle to a Muslim theocracy like Iran or others where Politicians can''t even run for office unless they are approved by the Muslim Clerics first.
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They tend to be raised in authoritarian environments that cause an increase in gray matter volume in the right amygdala which is associated with fear, disgust, aggression, Othering, impulsiveness, and an overwhelming need for certainty.

VictoriaNotes Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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The same reason a white privileged boy will get a lighter sentence than a black boy for the same crime. "PROFILING" Government agencies partial to the color white.

betpaq Level 5 Nov 14, 2017
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Trust me, there are religious nuts everywhere.

Gatovicolo Level 4 Nov 14, 2017
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Fair enough but for us Europeans the craziest seem to come from the US and the middle east! LOL
Perhaps it is not the religion but the easy access to the weapons used.
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There are differences. The guy in Texas was definitely deranged and there was nothing ideological in his actions. Timothy McVeigh was entirely an ideological terrorist.

wordywalt Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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Well, you already said it.
The religious idiots here have labeled the religious idiots (over there) as radical terrorists even though it's the same thing when one of their own does it.
Their own views have been skewed by their religion.

Paul628 Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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And why is it if a Muslim kills people he is a terrorist but when he is white religious he is called mentally unstable?

A few reasons probably

1. Religion isn't popularly seen as a "mental instability"
2. Terrorist kill out of discrimination, not all of the other killings are
3. Most of the whites are not part of a larger organization that intends to continue its attacks. They are just a singular unstable person.

Religious idiots in America, I posted this once. "Why do you think the USA is more religious than other developed nations?"

People gave me some good answers. They included:

Our nation was founded with religious roots
The U.S. marketplace helped it grow
Evangelicals had a huge influence

silvereyes Level 7 Nov 14, 2017
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I will definitely read up about these things a bit more and quite frankly didnt expect to get such informative answers. Thanks
Keep in mind that the shooter in Texas was an atheist.
Uh huh Harleyman and he worked for the DNC too... right? Get off your FOX and Breitbart "news" kick. Here is a suggestion: try PBS and NPR... they actually research their new reports.
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The answer to that question is : The Republican Party.

Our political landscape is like a pendulum swinging back and forth from right wing to left wing. When the right wing republican party is in power for a few years they implement laws that favor brainwashing young people through religious (Christian) education and laws that encourage NO separation between church and state. So since the days of our Republican Ronald Reagan the right wing party has successfully chipped away at science, education, diversity and secular government. They have indoctrinated several generations of narrow minded isolationists that view the world through bloated old white capitalist colonial glasses. Unfortunately they have been very successful.

You are correct to notice the different standard criminals are held to in the US. A brown skinned Muslim criminal is deemed a terrorist while a white skinned Christian is not only viewed as unstable but depending on his crime he might fully well be viewed as FORGIVEN!!!!

The US is in DEEP doo doo with the religious idiots it has churned out in the past 40 years.

jodyfine Level 6 Nov 14, 2017
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Thanks for explaining that. I didn't have a clue as to why but what you said makes sense.
The republicans even with their religious influence are a damn sight better that the idiotic democrats! The democrats are taking us to full blown socialism with the government controlling almost everything. If you've studied your history you should know that socialism just doesn't work.
The US is a FAR CRY from a socialist country. The closest we ever came to socialism was with FDR and his new deal and without that we would not have pulled out of the great depression. We are the richest nation on earth with fairly low taxes. Republicans always crying about "tax and spend" democrats is something I never understood. Yes we pay taxes and the government spends that tax money. The difference is HOW that money is spent. Personally I DO like to see tax money spent on helping the poor, on education and yes on affordable healthcare insurance. I don't see how that is deemed as some kind of evil socialist plot. Tax codes in republican hands are generally drawn to favor the ultra rich and spend very little on social programs. Harleyman... do tell me WHAT was the US economy like after 8 years of the Bush administration? And what kind of economy did Bush inherit from Bill Clinton? Now no you go study your history.
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