Maybe so, but not where I live.

The managers are using pictures of Truth to convey their own selfish truths.

@DavidNoel
Exactly! and I am very aware of that!

I corrected my post, please check it

Very good words. I am going through a stressful time right now and I am using it to get to understand my psyche.

That was beautiful.

Interesting you mention the guillotine … compared to the Spanish garrote it looks relatively benign (Do not google picture for "garrote"!)... Imagine this bloke Jesus would have been decapitated by guillotine … Christians would pray to a guillotine ...

@PontifexMarximus and they'd wear little guillotines around their necks, without a hint of irony.

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@genessa and a sharp blade

ha none of those were meant to be taken literally tho. That is "wisdom hidden from the wise"

Yes, religion and thinking are mutually exclusive.

Am I making generalizations or cause effect relationships. I dated a lady who had a 5 foot tall, 4 foot wide oil painting of Jesus on the wall at the end of her bed. When I first met her I just thought that she was a little quirky, but after several years, she came to my house unannounced at 5:00 in the morning and told me that she had been up all night and that early in the AM Jesus had married the two of us. She said that it was beautiful.....what do you call that.

@DavidNoel I suspect she may have had a mental health issue which is not religio-specific.

I am talking from my own experience and knowledge; I come from a deeply religious background. My maternal grandmother became blind and bedridden when she was 50, and she spent the remainder of her life (35 years), memorizing the bible. She was out of touch with reality, that is what schizophrenia is. Neurotics create castles in the sky, schizophrenics go live in them.

@DavidNoel Being around a schizophrenic person can be disturbing and difficult for an adult and I would imagine that for a child it would be very traumatic.
I can only say congratulations for enduring and surviving.

Actually there is a connection between schizophrenia and spirituality, but the spirituality is intensified AFTER the onset of schizophrenia. There is a very good book called “Rethinking Madness” that delves deeply into that issue. You would not know it from reading his book, but Paris Williams actually overcame schizophrenia, going on to become a psychiatrist.

@DavidNoel, @kodimerlyn Congratulations for fulfilling your duty and surviving.

@WilliamFleming Can you tell me more about schizophrenia and spirituality.

@WilliamFleming Does schizophrenia lead to spirituality or religiosity?

@DavidNoel according to Williams people create their own mental breakdown as an attempt to escape from life situations that have become unbearably fearful and tense. They reorder their way of perception, creating sights and sounds out of the mass of incoming stimuli that no one else detects. If, at that point they are given support and empathy they generally work through the reorganization of their minds and become healthy, successful, and deeply happy. Williams would label it as spiritual but I think also that many of them become religious in a more traditional sense. Too often society shuns them and they are given harsh medications. Those are the ones who tend to not get better

According to Williams there is a gradient in our lives between radical individualism and total immersion in others. At the first extreme lies loneliness and fear. Immersion with others represents loss of self or death. Those subject to schizophrenia can be anywhere on the gradient but they have little tolerance to change. A healthy, adaptable person can move back and forth along the line between the two extremes without fear.

I can’t really do the book justice—I’m telling you what I remember. It is one of those books that sticks in my mind and I’m glad I read it but I wish I could have read it thirty years earlier—it wasn’t written yet. Because the book is anti-medication I expected that many psychiatrists would be harshly critical, but try as I might, I couldn’t find a single negative review.

@WilliamFleming Thanks for that, I personally feel that the three major disorders (borderline personality, bipolar and schizophrenia) are really just the emotions that we have after we have been traumatized as a child and our emotional development has been stopped. The 3 major types are really used by psychiatrist to give them some idea of what medications to use. What really helps is to treat and heal the wounds (release the energy and information), and get the energy in the trauma flowing again.......You will not read about this because it is hard, takes a long time and requires deep emotional insights.