Care to expound?

@Captain_Feelgood this is not even responding to the race baiting present in the piece. Just flawed on the face of it.

illegal immigration is a can that has been kicked down the road for eons. the failure of congress (both parties) to fix it for said eons and the fact that that there are an estimated 11 million undocumented people in this country living and working decry the speaker’s premise in the video. None of that 11 million (or whatever estimate you choose to believe low to high end on number) showed within the this present liar's declared emergency. they have been here in many cases generationally. there are industries that rely on the work force. to conflate it as an emergency and add to it that manufactured of a leftist agenda is ludicrous. he would have to pin point the manifesto, writer, and the spot in history where they were able to make congress come to a screeching halt because there is a racist presence there (or at a minimum a need to maintain a the status quo by denying brown people a path to voting? nah that would be a bonus to them, i'll stick with racist.)

that would be quite a treatise. idiots like me would be able to pounce on it as stupid. and to show a group of brown people getting out of a van and running into the desert to show (prove?) them overwhelming the border is also asinine.

to use this thinking as justification to lock up people on the border in camps and to separate families and to rewrite asylum laws is uniquely conservative. uniquely republican. besides. mexico is going to pay for a wall so i would tell the speaker to, lighten up, francis.

@larsatrg I guess perspective is in order. I don't think the number of illegals that are already here decries his premise at all. In fact it shows how important it is to be able to control the border completely and stop all sneaking over. You are right about the powers that be kicking that can down the road for too long. The group of people getting out of a vehicle and running across the sand wasn't meant to prove anything. Hell, the videos from Mexico of the thousands of people traveling up did that.. The pictures and videos of them at our border does that. Bottom line is that our society can't take care of it's own people as it is. We damn sure don't need these tens of thousands more coming in all at once illegally. It really isn't hard to understand that. Now weather it's a plan or not by the Democrats to let non US Citizens vote thinking they will all vote for them is quite the theory. They certainly have moved to let them vote though, that's for sure. [washingtontimes.com]

@Captain_Feelgood I disagree. Immigration on the whole is a positive economically. And there are ebbs and flows, but the situation is not materially different than when this president took office. What changed is the rhetoric and aggressive tactics (and stupidity) that created different crises. There are not markedly more people trying to get in I'd bet even with social and political unrest in C America. That has been going on a long time. No talk about that, just disparage the shithole countries. Also, we already let 11 million in (again pick your number, say it is 4 mill, I don't care) and that is a precedent. I bet that has as much to do with it as anything. They, historically, know they can stay. A broken system for sure, and real problems, but compounded by stupid reactionary and bigoted policies. And there is not a justification for anti-immigrant rhetoric.

@larsatrg I had to stop at your second sentence... Yes LEGAL immigration is good.. Illegal is not.. It's not that hard to understand.

@Captain_Feelgood no need to stop. you miss my point. defacto legal illegal immigration on the whole has been economically viable. otherwise maybe the fn congress would have done their damn job in the first place. there are 4 to 11 million living here. to say that this is not a fact is wrong. to say that something has to be done immediately about illegal immigration is missing my overall point. they are here. congress did / does nothing. I suspect my reasons for a lot of their actions. disagree wiith that all you want. 4 million people living here. working here. is defacto immigration. THAT may have been hard to understand.

@larsatrg Wow... You made it to the third sentence this time.. First off, 'De Facto isn't one word. And 'Legal illegal' Immigration? Now there's an Oxymoron for you if I ever heard one... None of that made any sense. And no, living here and working here is not legal if they didn't go through OUR process that everyone else has to go through. Look, the US already has THE MOST lenient immigration policy of any country in the world. We take in ONE MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS every year. That's more than any other country by far. All we're asking is do it legally. Again... it's not that hard to understand. If you're here illegally, you need to go back and get in line. End of story.

@Captain_Feelgood well then it's a good thing it doesn't matter a thing that my knowledge of thenot word defacto doesn't matter. Not only to the world but you. Seems you got to correct me AND you understood what I meant. Bonus for me and you.