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Lest we forget? Western amnesia about Soviet role in WWII victory has some disturbing aspects… [rt.com]

How quickly the US ignored the truth instead preferring to be led by the nose into indoctrination by Zionism and other right wing agendas.

"The fact is that the Soviet system was brutal for all Soviet citizens and that more Russians suffered under it than other nationalities. The Soviet elite believed that its system was the best in the world and it introduced the same regime all over the territory of the USSR without national discrimination. It is precisely this issue which radically distinguishes Soviet Communism from Nazism, and therefore makes it absurd to treat the two regimes as if they were equal.

Although the Soviet military effort and, above all, the terrible suffering inflicted on the civilian population (more than 26 million Soviet citizens died in the war, in contrast to about 400,000 each in Britain and America) is overlooked in the West, Russians today cherish fondly the memory of the East-West alliance that brought Germany to her knees.

The Russians have every right to recall their finest hour with pride, just as the British do." John Laughland RT 07 August 2019.

FrayedBear 9 Aug 8
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Not sure why the need to speak of Zionism. The Russians most definitely suffered worse than most and they were a bigger influence in the timing of the outcome than the U.S. once the Russian production heated up. It took both the U.S. and Russia to win. It is also very likely that Russia's pronouncement of war against Japan played into Japanese reasoning into an immediate surrender to the U.S. Two bombs did put pressure on, however - do the readings. And the why the Russians announced when they did - a deal with FDR that Truman didn't follow through upon. That deal may have ushered in a smaller Soviet block - who knows, except that FDR had already ceded Poland. What ifs are just that; what was and not spoken about is rewriting history.

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Let's not try to rewrite history. Yes, it is true that Russia suffered greatly during WWII, and that they played a large role in defeating the Nazis. But, let's not forget the massacres by the Russians, the aggressive expansionism by the Russians in taking part of Finland, Poland, the Baltic nations. Let's also not forget How the Russians used the war to take absolute control over all of eastern Europe, killing and imprisoning dissenters, installing puppet regimes, stationing hundreds of thousands of Russian troops in those satellite states, and looting those nations of their resources. They used the war to advance a totalitarian ideology themselves.

The people didn't - the leaders did. Sounds more and more like the old imperial governments - and modern day America.

@Petter As I read @wordywalt 's response I had only the thought that he is projecting American admitted policy.

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I remember a few years ago, an "online aquaintance" from Texas was rambling on about WW2. I thought he was ignorant as he stated that America and America only won WW2. After trying to present him with a simple fact (Operation Barbarossa), which he refused to consider I thought "His ego is SO Massive!"

But I now realize a few years later, that he is a White Nationalist. They make up their own history

twill Level 7 Aug 8, 2019

[britannica.com]

The videos are particulary informative. Imagine 3 million soldiers captured and then mainly executed. Imagine communist officials being shot on identification. Could America have survived such?

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The Russians suffered more than any other nation during the war. People just don't want to know it. The mass starvation alone was brutal.

Do you have links to that?

@FrayedBear I will ask my dad. It is one of his interests 🙂

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