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Does anyone have children that attend public school, in states that have made laws about posting In God We Trust or the Ten Commandments in the schools? If so, do you plan to have them attend the school, or do you tell them to ignore it and learn their lessons.

Wisewoman3 7 Aug 13
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"In God We Trust" wasn't put on currency until 1954. Same year as the Supreme Court Ruling on Brown vs. The Board of Education.

Starr Level 3 Aug 15, 2019
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no, i don't

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people are like sheep to the slaughter they just follow. Across the country almost every court and city council have in god we trust plastered in them. City hall have what they call an invocation a different name for prayer. Meanwhile they do not obey laws parking halfway into handicap and loading zones.

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This seems appropriate too...

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I live in the UK, a daily act of collective worship of a broadly Christian character is the norm in most state schools. All schools teach religious education. It's possible to opt your children out of but not really worth it as it's not too heavy handed for the most part. There's also faith schools which can be state funded. That's the thing I'm unhappy with. Religious institutions being granted public money to indoctrinate children.

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I have a child in public school, but we live in Massachusetts, which is the #2 atheist state in the country.

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I teach in a blue state. In my honors classes, 5-10 students do not stand for the pledge (which is their right--some have a problem with the pledge, while others are just lazy and don't want to stand). If we have a weird schedule (so we do the pledge during a different period), my regular classes almost always all stand, but they tend to just follow what everyone else is doing (and not out of respect, or any sense of really caring).

I've had students in the past who will stand and say the pledge...except for "under god".

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I have no kids but about 10 years ago, for awhile, my then wife and I were considering adopting the 4yr old daughter of a teen mother in crisis who reached out to us. While considering the possibility of taking her little girl, we did some proactive research into the schools available and I was pleased to see there was one just up the street that cost peanuts so I went to check it out and, of course, it was attached to a church. It was a Xian indcotrination center in the form of a pre-school.

My then wife (a beliver) was fine with that while I, of course, was not. She cited the convenience of its location and the minimal expense and I countered with the, y'know, brainwashing. The argument could've gone on but the issue became moot after the teenage mother died from an overdose and the little girl went to a different family in Pennsylvania where they were from.

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I live in Texas and was in high school myself 3 years ago. Although my old high school did not have any In God We Trust signs up (at least that I noticed), they did have us take our AP tests in a church with Bible verses everywhere. I don’t know how AP classes work for other states, but for Texas, you have to pass them to get college credit for a class you took. If you did not want to take the test in the church, you would just have to deal with not getting credit for the course. (Thankfully, I heard that they stopped doing that this year.)

Years ago when I taught at a high school that was bursting at the seams with students, they had ISS (in school suspension) in a church across the street (at least for a few weeks or months).

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We used to have a morning prayer over the intercom but there was never any religious element to our classes.

I take that back. I was subjected to an arrogant, swaggering, domineering atheist for one of my classes.

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I would imagine a lot of these schools are in localities where there is but one school system. What choice do people have? My daughter went to such a school and did OK. She took several teachers to task and reported them to the principal for raciest comments and the principal said he would look into it but nothing was ever done. I'm proud of her for speaking up anyway. Most things she just ignored at school but we heard about it at the supper table.

gearl Level 8 Aug 13, 2019
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I don't think the schools in Texas that my daughter attended had the signs but if they had, I would still continue in that school if the quality was as good. The quality of education and academic experience was very good. Fighting over one issue while ignoring the larger good - is the fight I would not have chosen. We do such choices in life all the time - tolerance and looking away at work, in personal lives and in the society at large. I would be not worried about the God stuff because she was firmly anchored into her religious beliefs. Today she is an atheist at 21 and I still tell her to watch her company, place and environment before criticizing politics and religion. I like to be pragmatic, not an idealist.

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I do not have children of my own.
If I did, I would hope I'd be fighting those requirements.
If I did, I would hope I'd have the means to take my kids out of those
schools and either move to another state that wasn't doing that, or
put them in a private school that didn't do that.

I have the utmost sympathy for parents who don't agree with that
bullshit but are powerless to to change it. Whether it be because they
can't afford to escape it, or they are outnumbered by those who believe
that garbage is right.
It's appalling how it's just so easy for some people to completely ignore
and violate the Constitution.

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Great question

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