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There is a question that atheists ask, " How can a just God allow bad things to happen to good people "? I say that is the wrong question. The better question is, " How can a just God allow good things to happen to bad people "? We have gotten things exactly backwards today. Good people are belittled, even punished. Bad people are rewarded and even made leaders in society. Rich people get that way through theft, exploitation, and lies. We tolerate them, even encourage them. We have grown to think there's something wrong with the virtuous. Honest, compassionate, empathetic people are schmucks and suckers. Ayn Rand calls them slaves. Milton Friedman encourages the vile, the exploiters, and insists just making money is the only social responsibility anyone has. We need to turn this around. We need to rebuild a world so that the good are rewarded and the bad are punished.

nipoleon 5 Aug 13
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Because is fictional ?

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 14, 2019
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By definition an atheist does not believe in gods, thus how can an atheist ever say any of the questions you claim much less capitalize the word god?

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Here's an even better question, why do athiests ask questions about non-existent entities?

lerlo Level 8 Aug 14, 2019
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Ask Pinnochio the same questions....lt matters not if a piece of wood lies and a wood nose grows or truth be told.....Waiting For Godot.....there is no sense to be made of insanity.....the alleged word gawd has no meaning....an alleged referent without object
....the absurd false assumption of monotheism is equally insane as talking to icons Thor Zeus Apollo APHRODITE Osiris or alleged baby gawds birthed in dirty donkey stables every December 25th by alleged vaginal virgins magically raped by an alleged angel....an alleged winged humanoid from clouds or an alleged Mormon planet somewhere invented in Fingerlakes NY ....makes perfect sense ?....do you have union change for some Confederate money ? Jefferson Davis is more handsome than Benjamin Franklin

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It has nothing to do with God and all to do with human nature. That being said, there needs to be continued collective action or nothing is going to change. Emphasis on "continued," because even if we've gotten something licked doesn't mean it's going to stay that way; unfortunately complacency is also part of our condition.

I'm reminded of this quote: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." ― Edmund Burke

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As a strong atheist I have never posed the question, "How can a just God allow bad things to happen to good people?" I primarily focus on what evidence do you have to support the existence of their god.

This question does remind me of a wedding I shot in a church many years ago. One of the subjects was a tiny newborn girl wearing a lacy white dress and flowers in a headpiece above her ears. The tiny girl supported and was sitting on silk pillows in a small red pull behind wagon in all covered with red rose pedals. She was having a terrible time breathing as she was born without a nasal cavity so the surgeons had to bore a hole into her skull and had inserted what looked like a tiny stainless steel deformed bell of a toy trumpet through what should have been her nasal passage. her grandmother (a hardened Catholic) asked me, "Why would god allow such an innocent person to suffer so much?" My response was, god had nothing to do with this. She is alive because our modern medicine prolonged her life. The tiny girl died a few weeks later.

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Take a look at Conservative politics in the western world. It is the poor lawbreakers that get punished the most. Steal some food, get drunk, disorderly conduct and minor crimes which come from poverty and the right wing press jump on the problem. But they financially take very little. It is the quiet crimes where vast amounts on money and or property are stolen through 'white-collar' crime. Study many of Trump's old friends for modern examples. The right wing media seldom fall upon these criminals who at least in the UK get very light judicial retribution. Remember 2008 and the banking crisis. Those guilty got away with it and were often rewarded. Iceland being a notable exception.

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There’s a verse in an old country gospel song that addresses both sides of this. It goes: [When] death has come and taken our loved ones//It leaves our hearts so lonely and drear//Then do we wonder why others prosper//Living so wicked year after year.com///Then the chorus responds.com///Farther along we’ll know all about it//Farther along we’ll understand why//Cheer up my brother, Live in the sunshine//We’ll understand it all by and by.com/// I think this was sung in the movie, O Brother, Where Art Thou? However, I’ve known it since I was a preschool kid.

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These thoughts seem to be assuming an order to things. I believe life is random. Thus good and bad things happen to good and bad people, in all different ways and measures.

Life is inherently unfair and often unpredictable. Though, through common sense, and preparatory thinking, one can often avoid the worst of things, and have a pretty pleasant existence - or not.

I consider myself a pretty good human. Still, I could go out back, in my yard, where there are many huge trees. With all the rain we've had lately, one could just uproot and fall and crush me. Happens now and then. Smoosh !

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If some omnipotent intention exists, it is apparent, through observation, that it leaves us to take care of ourselves. We've come a long way in the last 5000 years of civilization. And we have a long way to go to get to where the thoughtful want be. Of course, the modern world changes by the year. I believe we will overcome the recent setback in decency. The thoughtful need to be heard and read. Keep expressing your concerns.

MrDMC Level 7 Aug 14, 2019
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Their answer is always eschatological ie all will be put right at the second coming. But in doing so they concede fact that there is no justice on earth for too many. How convenient to posit the view that in an unverifiable future aeon justice will be done. And they wonder why many doubt or flat out reject such beliefs.

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Personally, I think we need a better benevolence.

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