A perfect example of a pathological liar in action. The only time his mind works faster than that of a fourth grader, because it is based on involuntary rather than reasoned thought. Instead of correcting his mistake he automatically resorts to a lie, pretending there is something called a Diversary Lottery AND a Diversity Lottery. He then goes on to explain how a lottery works. Who knew? What is most infuriating is the fact that the press does not ask him what the fuck he is talking about when he says Diversary Lottery. They listen to his nonsensical rambling and lies and say nothing.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.they seem to care most about what he tweets than anything
jniece
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Aug 21, 2019
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I would say anything that he communicates. I don't see his followers using any medium other than a television set to Fox News for some reason. I may be wrong. I just don't see them technologically advanced enough to tweet LOL PS I thought Klamath Falls was in Oregon?
@mooredolezal it is. I didn't realize it said that. I just moved here and only changed the city I guess. oops. Believe me though- they are on twitter in droves. And they are utterly shameless!
@jniece I quit Twitter a long time ago. It was too infuriating. I need to have those conversations face to face so I can punch someone if necessary LOL
What is even worse than hiss crass comments is the reaction of his supporters who cheered them
Moravian
Level 8
Aug 21, 2019
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Yes they truly are disgusting human beings. Supporting Trump it's not indicative of a political stance as politics have been in the past. Supporting him shows acquiescence with the most depraved human being I have ever encountered in my lifetime. His actions have resulted in dozens if not hundreds of deaths. I truly wish him a slow painful end as retribution for all the carnage he has left in his wake.
@mooredolezal definitely agree Trump is gross. He's like a rebellious teen-ager. but only difference between him and previous Presidents is he can't keep his mouth shut about all the bad sh-- he does. Every Pres (except Carter) in my lifetime has been a crooked, lying, murderous pig. We didn't get police state mass surveillance, kill lists, torture, regime change wars, ndaa (which includes loss of habeas corpus and posse comatatus), patriot act, mass incarceration, drone assassination, nafta, and slave wages from Trump. While his handling of things such as the "immigration crisis" is deplorable; Obama built them camps and deported more immigrants than all other presidents combined. One good thing has come with Trump. Awareness. the people that didn't give a sh-- what their country was doing to others before him are realizing our "freedom" does not exist and our security and reputation have been utterly destroyed. Anyone thinking Biden or another establishment candidate would be better than Trump need only look 3 years back to what Obama's role has been in getting us here. And Biden has already said "nothing will fundamentally change".
@jniece I agree with everything you wrote save Obama and the fact that you believe he is not worse. He is truly a despicable human being. Quantitatively his racism and bigotry has no comparison, with the possible exception of Jackson. We have never had a president that is semi-literate and of such a low intelligence. Experts have placed his ability to be that of an 8 to 10 year old child.The worst part is he does not seek to be educated and follows the advice of the last person he speaks with. His narcissism is beyond comparison to any human being I have encountered during my lifetime. The same holds true for his pathological lying. I have heard him lie within in the same sentence dozens of times. Above all he and McConnell have proven to be traitors to the country. Trump takes Putin's word over that of the entire intelligence community and disclosed secrets to the Russians while in the Oval Office, putting the lives of Israeli agents at risk. He has obstructed justice at least a half-dozen times and is nothing but a con man who preys upon those of inferior intellect. He has been found liable for perpetrating the fraud of Trump University and has been involved and over 1,400 lawsuits as a defendant. President Obama is highly intelligent. Though I might not have agreed with all his policies I have never known him to do anything morally objectionable. He saved this country from what would have been the greatest depression since the Great Depression. He extricated the country from two wars and established healthcare for millions of Americans. He did all this with an obstructionist Congress for six of his eight years. I can't even comprehend how you could compare him to Trump, or state he had a role getting us to where we are today. Comparing Obama to someone who has been determined to be a sociopath, in addition to having other severe mental health issues by dozens of physicians in the mental health industry, is asinine. As for Biden, I really don't care what he says. I am not a Democrat. I am a progressive independent.
@mooredolezal holy shit! Did DNC write that for you? Lying and fraud worse than premeditated MURDER of another country's Pres? TORTURE? That not sociopathic? theft of our constitution? EXECUTION w/o trial? Bush was a pretty dumb Pres as well. Intelligence? who gives a DAMN how smart a serial killing war monger is? u been in a cave or something? Have you READ the NDAA? The Patriot Act? Israel? F Israel! Trump is Netanyahu boot licker! Healthcare? Half ass Romneycare? Obstructionist Congress? He had FILIBUSTER PROOF MAJORITY in first 2 years of admin! Still have Gitmo. Made permanent Patriot act. Still millions w/o healthcare. and 7 friggn wars! 7! Your belief is incomprehensible. War crimes are war crimes. regardless of perpetrator. PERIOD. Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Obama, Biden, Netanyahu, Trump ALL war criminals. That is a FACT.
@jniece No. What presidential assassination? Obama outlawed waterboarding the first year of his administration and I do not have a clue what you mean by theft of our constitution. As far as I am concerned that American was an enemy combatant. I'd like you to find someone who does not believe intelligence should be a prerequisite to being president of the United States. The Patriot Act was not passed during his administration and the NDAA was passed in 1961. Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the USA Freedom Act. Did you also want to blame him for the Kennedy assassination? I said nothing in support of Israel or Trump why do you write as though I did? Why don't you ask the millions of Americans that now have health care what they think about their half-assed Romneycare? Or if they prefer that to nothing. Exactly how much do you expect a president to get done in two years? It is amazing that he accomplished as much as he did. As far as the seven wars that you reference they must not have made the news. Please enlighten me.
@mooredolezal first, let me say that I regret the harshness of my earlier response. This is a subject I am extremely passionate about. Because of this, I decided to wait a bit to respond again.
I'll try to address each of your counter arguments in a more general way.
Israel- you spoke of him putting Israeli agents in harms way.
NDAA/patriot act-after campaigning on dumping the Patriot act because it violates the constitution, he instead made it permanent. Obama signed ndaa on dec 31,2011 and again on Dec 26, 2013.-- "Obama signed NDAA codifying indefinite military detention without charge or trial into law for the first time in American history" ACLU. It includes Indefinite detention w/0 charge or trial.
He said he signed with with "reservations about it's constitutionality" still signed it. Now Trump has it too.
Presidential Assassination- the murder of libya pres gadaffi was discussed several times in Hillary's emails. I read them ALL. took weeks. Prior to his murder she was discussing how to divide his gold once he was killed. Then went on national tv after his murder and laughed and joked about it saying 'we came we saw he died". regardless of what you think about gadaffi, this is premeditated murder and would only be trivialized publicly by sociopaths.
if you're truly interested in finding out why he was really killed, the best explanation i've found is here
it's a little hard to understand narrator but has subtitles available.
I also want to say that I too once loved Obama. I worked very hard to elect him in 2008. What I loved most was his being constitutional lawyer and he seemed to be as disgusted by Patriot act and Torture and war as I was. He promised to restore the constitution. Instead, right after receiving peace prize he created a kill list and began drone assassination of "terrorists" (including an American child) rather than providing them due process they are entitled to under his beloved constitution.
He also invaded 5 more countries (after running as anti-interventionist) seeking regime change. I've written about and researched these things for nearly 11 years now. What I learned initially devastated me. I only continued to research it to prove it wrong. Now I know that nearly everything we are taught in school about our history is a lie. And I've also learned that the republican/democrat parties have very few differences when it comes to legislation. today, it is my belief that the democrats are actually far more dangerous than republicans. They are very good at disguising their true intentions. At least you see republicans coming. Better to know the enemy in my view.
Obama deserves an oscar as far as I'm concerned. he convinced us he was trustworthy so we elected him and went to sleep assured our country was in good hands.
While he got rid of waterboarding, every other means of torture continued in his admin such as force feeding, isolation, and denial of due process to detainees that have not been convicted of a single crime, or pose any threat to our nation's security.
Why any of these things are acceptable to voters is the greatest mystery I've ever pursued. Most voters just don't know what is really going on, and even when faced with absolute proof that these ppl are not on our side, many choose to deny it because it makes them feel like fools. there is nothing more concerning to me than the fact that millions still think party affiliation is best method to determine who they should vote for. Even when a candidate's history clearly shows what they say and what they do are two very different things, they choose to write the factual record off and put their trust in what they say. I've been attacked for pointing out facts about a so-called progressive's record that directly contradict the position they claim to hold now. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. So instead of listening to their speech, one only need to look at how they have handled real issues in their authority to determine how they will handle future issues.
As too "intelligence" there is no greater corrupt institution in ANY country than the CIA, (FBI is close second). Every single war and assassination have been guided by intelligence.
Last is a little more personal. "how much could he get done in two years" and "amazing he accomplished what he did"
When a revolutionary election such as 2008 elects overwhelmingly a candidate that represents himself as opposite of previous admin and people are engaged, it is his responsibility to use his powerful position "bully pulpit" to tell the world who is obstructing the peoples chosen agenda and explain he needs our help to get them on board. It is our responsibility then to assist him. At some level we are at fault for leaving it to him to deal with, but he only needed to bring that to our attention to get us to re-engage. He is most powerful person in the world. He can call press to attention anytime he wants. With the people behind him, there is NOTHING he CAN'T do. Especially when u have a super majority in both houses. It doesn't get any better than that politically. It was literally impossible for republicans to obstruct him! Impossible. In reality there is no excuse for his lack of accomplishment.
Finally, what accomplishments are you attributing to him? Nothing he promised was accomplished. After campaigning with- "i'll put on a pair of comfortable shoes and join the strike" he barely acknowledged the teachers of WI. On top of that so many things became worse rather than better. Militarization of police and their brutality against peaceful protest are absolutely antithetical to the position he claimed to hold. I'm interested in a list of accomplishments you attribute to him.
and just to be clear; truth is only thing that matters to me. I'm not about being right. I am very open to reversal on things once they are shown to be false. I'm also very much in favor of continued discussion with persons of opposite view as preaching to the choir is an ineffective means to bring change.
@jniece I really want to give your response the time that it deserves so if I don't get back to you within the next few days please remind me. I have a lot going on right now with a move. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
HMIM.....
AnneWimsey
Level 9
Aug 21, 2019
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Anne, you're killing me with your abbreviations!
@mooredolezal I have to say it so much, so I invented this one...His Mouth Is Moving
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