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UPDATE on Religion's professor saying atheism is a religion.

I've been asked so many times for clarification on what my religions professor said. Here's notes from his lectures he sends out. Also, yes, he is a Lutheran minister....and he has essentially ditched our textbook (which I liked) and everything is off of his lectures/notes.

In addition, in our papers we're only allowed to use sources that he has given us in advance so that doesn't allow for any opposing research to be included in our papers. It's not a huge deal, but it's just a tiny bit disappointing.

PiperMckenna 6 Aug 21
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Wow. That actually IS a big deal.
He's actively advocating against critical thinking and seeking out multiple
sources.
He's a terrible instructor.

I'm really fretting over this class. I don't know if I should just agree and write whatever he wants me to...I just don't know. There is another atheist in my class, I'm going to see what she does and maybe talk to her some. I just really can't drop

@PiperMckenna You should do whatever you think you need to do.
Good luck.

@PiperMckenna

My advice is don't do that. I had to write a term paper in a sociology class. My view conflicted with the professor's. The paper merited an A. Got a B. No red corrections. Everyone else had red marks. Mine didn't. The only red on mine was a B.

There are 2 choices I see. Fight him now, or stick it up his ass at another time.

I recommend you waiting. Then hit him in the nuts. Maybe contact some larger groups about this. Film the class. Collect ammo.

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Define religion.
And btw why on earth would anyone voluntarily attend such a worthless class?

It was the only class that met my needs for "culture inclusion" or something. That's one of the reasons I'm not dropping. I'm not at a Christian college, I didn't know it'd be so biased.

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Being treated as a religion, and being a religion are not the same thing. Especially when the phrases about treatment only refer to legal definitions, you can not jump for legal definitions to all other definitions, such as philosophical.

He 100% threw out the 5-7 definitions of religion in the textbook and put together a different definition that I had to write about. And he required us to right about the ways that make atheism fit into the religion definition. I couldn't just be quiet. I did the assignment and then at the end said I don't actually believe anything I just said.... I don't know how that will go over. We'll see when I receive my grade.

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Drop the class
He’s an idiot
He’s inter mingling religion and group/society
I understand the point he’s making but he’s just plain wrong

He doesn’t get to make shit up because he’s a professor. I’d challenge him every step of the way. You don’t have to accept his ideologies.
Take philosophy classes instead.

I'd like to drop this class but I've already dropped one this semester due to health. I feel stuck. I'm just hoping that it doesn't affect my grade in the class. I'm trying to be as quiet as possible but I don't know how to write my papers without addressing the problems I see. I hate this whole situation.

@PiperMckenna
You have some options

  1. Write your papers how you see fit.
    He’s not a dictator.
    Just make sure you justify your choices along the way through research and facts. Cite the crap out of everything. Explain why you did so.

Grades are not the end all in college.

  1. When you choose a topic make sure it doesn’t involve his concepts of atheism. So basically only write on topics that won’t involve you contradicting what you believe in.

  2. Use his own material he’s providing to prove he’s wrong.

Ultimately if he’s a professor of any merit he will accept you challenging him as long as you do so with valid arguments and facts to base it in.
If he’s a douche which most of us here suspect then you will have to go to his peers for support.

This is difficult but hella fun!

He does have the option to lower your grade by not following his format but he can’t give you a poor grade if you challenge him or disagree with him.

@PiperMckenna Drop the class and try not to pay for it. If you are paying not to pursue your education, why?

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