I find it strange how much believers push the idea that their god loves people. If their god actually existed the way the Bible describes, this being would be vile and repulsive.
Believers believe that God is somehow "love" even though he created human beings KNOWING that they would "sin" from being tempted by a fruit that God planted in a garden, even though God does not tempt anyone (Genesis 22:1-2; James 1:13), causing 100 percent of them to suffer in some way on this planet and 90 percent of them to suffer for an ETERNITY in a lake of fire (Matthew 7:13-14; Revelation 21:8 ). Ten billion years and still suffering, 1000 trillion years and still burning, FOREVER and still suffering, all from a test that their God set up KNOWING already they would fail in the first place. Yet, they believe this “God” is perfect love and the very embodiment of love (1 John 4:7-8 ).
That Jesus was born a man, free of sin, from a corruptible sinful virgin girl who possessed the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, even though NO ONE who is a descendant of Adam and Eve is righteous and ALL have a fallen nature (Romans 1:3; Romans 3:10; Romans 3:23), and that Mary could not be redeemed apart from Jesus shedding his blood and dying for her (Hebrews 9:22; Hebrews 10:4), without which the sin-nature of fallen man would continue in Jesus, and yet he was somehow not a blemished sacrifice and was somehow the perfect sacrifice for sin, even though he would also possess the sinful nature of Adam and Eve through Mary. And that somehow his sacrificial body was not corruptible, even though he aged, and had to sleep, eat and poop.
And the fact that you cannot give and take away guilt and "sin" like it was some sort of bad debt. If you raped and murdered a small child, no amount of belief would change that fact. Even if billions of people stated that they would "take" your "sin" and be punished for the crime, it would never change the fact that is was you who committed it. We could all lie and continue to believe the lie that the innocent could be punished for your crime, but that would only make things worse since, according to the Bible, ”all liars" will burn in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8 ).
That “invisible laws" are somehow proof of THEIR specific God. That we are ALL born with a knowledge of God but need them to preach or tell us about this God that we are supposed to have knowledge of already (Romans 10:14-15). That God has created ALL the proof needed to show himself even though they are not able to produce that proof and that God holds people accountable and "without excuse" because they won't accept this proof which they cannot see (Roman 1:20). That we are to simply believe their story without question because it is pride if we don't, and that if we were "spiritual" we would be able to KNOW and FEEL all of this was TRUE without the slightest piece of evidence.
It just proves they don't believe their Bible, they believe what they WANT it to say.
A reading of Deuteronomy 1 is enough to appreciate, clearly, that the god of the Old Testament is not the creator of men, but the other way around; he is the creation of men, and of hideous men at that. Why? Because the god described in that text, and by the way, those are supposed to be the words of Moses himself, that god is a hideous being. He condones killing, he pits people agains people, he is unable to teach his own creation to share the world, but instead, he pushes them to forcefully take land from others. He is childish, changes his mind in an instant, punishes indiscriminately, plays favorites, is revengeful, paranoid, requires blind obedience, and does not care for the supplications of his beloved creation. All of which makes perfect sense if we understand that such god is the creation of a flawed, fearful, unsophisticated (to say the least) savage bronce age tribe.
The notion of "sin" is a convenient human wish fulfillment. If suffering comes from "sin", then people feel if they could only figure out how to stop sinning,, they could stop suffering. This notion gives people the illusion of control, which makes what happens seem less arbitrary. Also if good things in life are a sign of god's favor, that is a powerful pump to our ego if we are fortunate. The big guy is on your side in that case.
Also if Adam & Eve are the sole parents of the human race, then their children must have been involved in incest, because where would they find a spouse who wasn't a brother or sister. So the whole human race is founded on incest
The xians only fondle their fetish bibles only Atheists read bibles as you just did.....zionists are following their scriptures all too well murdering Palestinians in shrinking apartheid ghettos better than NAZIs did...
Zero alleged gawds by any name are answering prEyers....too many genocidal racist AmeriKKKans support all the zionists in the Democrat "debates"....only 17 Congressmembers voted to support BOYCOTTS DIVESTMENT & SANCTIONS 398 and 99 Senators ensure the murder of Allah believers in Palestine with USA IN gawd WE TRUST tax dollars
In my church days I heard 2 common excuses for things that are unpleasant in the bible.
It's what they want to believe and nowhere do you find this in the bible. Nowhere at all. If you look for it you will even find Jesus contradicting himself.
I tire and worry about the number of criminals that have flocked to religion to buy their sins away. The victim is still raped, tortured, slandered, life ruined, whatever. The church rises in power with money supplied by criminals. And Christianity worships Martyrs, parents raise their kids to become martyrs (shooters) as do some extremist sects of Islam strapping on vests & blowing up a marketplace. There is no difference.