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Christmas is coming up deep sigh looking forward to Christians telling me I can’t celebrate it because im an atheist.

averykings 6 Oct 14
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Lots here have commented on it being a pre-christian holiday, here is why/how.
Yes, it celebrates the solstice but just after. If you live an agricultural life? Then there comes a time when you have to decide what animal stock you keep through the winter and what you slaughter. This was done at the solstice and there is only so much meat you can preserve, so what do you do with the rest? Have a feast and invite everyone to join in.

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Being raised Jewish, I used to think I couldn't celebrate because of that, and so I always felt left out. But since learning that it was originally a pagan ritual celebrating the solstice that was co-opted by Christians, I haven't been feeling that way anymore and have been enjoying celebrating in my own way.

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Stick a christmas bulb up their nose, and say "I didn't hear you"?

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Quite right too.

Why should you get the advantages of those marvellous pagan traditions such as gift giving, plum pudding, a Yule log spitting on the hearth, communal singing, drinking and generally being merry?

You’re not a Christian!

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Christmas gift giving is perpetuated by the consumer economy just like during the secretaries' day, boss's day, mother's day, father's day..... If you really love your family, you do not need to wait for Christmas. Give them gifts when you want it, give children excitement when they want it.... True love does not wait until once a year. There are cultures around the world that do not wait until once a year to give gifts among family. Exchanging gifts is a mockery of a true feeling of wanting to give selflessly.

It is also a misconception that I am buying deals during Christmas. Merchants know very well that you will need gifts and you all will need it badly right during December. You will also often need it in the second or 3rd week of December and you will buy in October or November. They will quietly raise prices across the board except on selected items, offer free shipping and make an illusion that you have great deals. It is extensively written about. This is no secret. Also how do I know this? I ran 6 online stores for 10 years and I knew shoppers' psyche very well.

I don’t tend to give presents on the holidays, I normally buy my loved ones presents when i feel like it, the whole essence of “gift giving” tends to put a lot of pressure on me.

@averykings We stopped with gifts a few years ago. Best thing we ever did! We do tokens but mostly now do things. All year we may find things and give gifts but for the holidays we try to be together, play games and maybe go to shows or on drives.
We decorate up a storm. When folks comment that it is odd for an atheist to decorate for the holidays I point out that every single decoration is pagan. Wreaths, trees, bells, bows, red ribbon. It is all for pagan celebrations later stolen and copied for "Christmas".

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Don't keep Christ in Christmas. Just call it 'the holidays'.

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so-called Christians don't celebrate Christmas either. They celebrate materialism.

100%

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Love Christmas. We have always done secular Christmas. As an excuse to be with family and gift giving.

That sounds cool, i travel between both my parents houses and receive a lot off “I wish you would stop this atheist crap” lol

@averykings Well, they still love you they just don't understand you!

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Do you want to celebrate Christmas? I find it totally unappealing. I am most sinful during Christmas. It was originally a Pagan Festival.

I don’t really “celebrate” it in the traditional way, i just tend to spend more time with my loved ones.

@averykings That's the best way!

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It's really a pagan holiday. It's the feast of Sol Invictus. Jesus wasn't even born on December 25. Tell them they can't celebrate Christmas unless they renounce Christ and swear allegiance to Santa Claus.

100%, I actually read that Jesus was born in summer and his birthday was actually moved.

@averykings the Jehovah's Witnesses say GeeZeus was born most likely in late summer to early fall - Roman census time. They, on occasion, like history and science.

But, since there is no proof of a son of God, it is prefer moot.

@averykings Luke 2:8 says the shepherds were watching the fields by night. They don't do that in the cold of winter. December 25 was not chosen because anyone thought it was his birthday, but simply because it was already a pagan festival celebrating the return of the sun. It was called Sol Invitus, or the "invincible sun". (The invincible son, get it?)

@Beowulfsfriend September is a good guess for Jesus' birthday. Luke 1:23-24 tells us that Elizabeth, John's mother, became pregnant right after Zechariah's service in the temple. This would have been mid June....approximately. This means that John the Baptist would have been born around mid March....or close to Passover. Jesus would have been conceived in John's sixth gestational month by the Holy Spirit, [Luke 1:26] which would have been December....so Jesus would have been born around the middle of September. This event would have probably taken place about the time of the last Hebrew Holiday of Sukkot,(Feast of Tabernacles). Since everyone was expected to travel to Jerusalem for the three annual feasts this is probably the real reason why there was no room in the inn.

@Heraclitus Excellent. You can’t beat the data.

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Ah, Yule Tide.

So enjoyable!

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There is more to Christmas than the religious bs that goes with it. It's were people can spend time family and friends to whatever since they can't do it any other time .

I agree, i love Christmas and spending time with my loved ones makes me feel so lucky.

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