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It is interesting the number of people on here commenting on how they are surrounded where they live by conservative Christians and how that makes them feel isolated--and I do not see much pattern to this--all over the country. I recently saw a county by county US map (have looked, cannot find again) that used 5 factors (about) to place each county on a spectrum of how conservative or liberal it was. The important part for me was seeing how there were no areas of the country that were all one way or the other. So if a state is conservative as a whole, that generally means their urban areas are conservative--red states have conservative cities, but then they would have liberal towns and are rural areas clustered somewhere. And where cities are liberal, the opposite. This mirrors my personal experience. So i would suggest that when you feel there is no one like you where you live, you ask, where are they that is not so far away. Where are the college towns. Where did people head back to the land. Where are the lines that were determined by waves of migration that may have determined the balance of political/social views many years later. And having lived in many conservative areas, the truth is that there are people like me everywhere, but that when they are in the minority, not only are there less of them, but those there are are less visable. So the trick is, where do they gather. I lived in rural VA for many years, and there was a pizza place/music venue/bar that was clearly the gathering place for the liberal minded. I suspect most towns have their "blue state bar". Find your havens, folks, you are not alone.

DavidDuhon 7 Nov 8
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Thanks for that post. As a non-American theimpressiin I had was that there were great swathes of Southern America that we totally dominated by the religious right.

That just seemed not right to me but not my experience so not for me to say. Your post has put some sanity back into my questioning.

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I think it's the microcosms - where do people work? Where do they play?
In those areas do they find like minded folks?

That's what will color their perceptions. And often make them feel "surrounded".

I worked in an office that ran high to Republicans and the Religious - it definitely felt like "Me versus the World" but I was very aware that outside the doors - there were many folks just like me. I lived in a Blue State - there was no worry these were the majority of folk. lol

But it's easy to start taking small clues and building them into the wrong picture.

And even if you can only find a few - "just like you" where you are - you can still be pretty happy to have a group of friends with like interests and shared beliefs/morals.

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I’m with you on this one. I live in rural Alabama, depicted by some as an evil hotbed of right-wing “Evangelicals”. Yet all my most immediate friends are non-believers, and church people never bother me in the least.

I can see though that for some people, family members might pressure them. It might be hard to escape your family.

@DavidDuhon You can be as hateful, bigoted, ignorant and prejudiced as you want to be if you carefully pick the correct scapegoat.

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no no no .. I know that sounds comforting and all ... but we need to learn to congregate "amongst dem english John Book". Find the similarities and embrace those things.

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You make it sound as though it's kind of the same for liberals and conservative, or non-religious and religious. But I suspect it's more accurate to say that minority non-religious/liberals living in majority conservative/religious areas are more likely to be ostracized or repressed, which makes the matter worse. I also think the opposite situation is less likely to be true because liberals are more likely to be tolerant, i.e. live and let live, as long as you're not stepping on other peoples' toes.

@DavidDuhon And I think it's mostly Christians being intolerant. I'm not aware of many majority minority-religion areas that are intolerant.

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