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With today being Veterans Day in the US, I wanted to bring up something that has been bothering me for a long time.

Firstly, I want to make clear that I mean absolutely no disrespect to all those who have served, are serving, and all their families. If anyone chooses to take offense, I've already said that I intend no disrespect, so I'm not going to apologize for anything I'm going to say.

I remember very clearly how Vets were treated during and after Vietnam. It was pretty damned appalling how they were maligned and disrespected.
Especially since many (if not most) of them had been drafted into military service.

Those returning from WWII weren't really treated all that well either. Granted, they had the GI Bill, but once the initial celebrations were done, everyone returned to business as usual. All the black members of the military had to go right back to being treated like garbage by the racists, and all the women who served were expected to go back to being completely subservient to men.

Okay, here's my point (and yes, I know it's taken a minute to get to it).

While it's great that those in the military are finally being recognized for their service, haven't we, as a society, gone completely too far in the opposite direction? And isn't most of that recognition really damned hypocritical?
Many people are falling all over themselves thanking those who have served, and are still serving.
BUT, veterans are still struggling to get adequate healthcare.
Especially mental health care. Suicides have increased exponentially among past and present military members.
Their families still struggle to make ends meet.

The politicians are all over the place today, making speeches and "honoring" those who served.
45 drones on and on (okay, he LIES) about how he admires veterans, but he's done NOTHING for them.
The VA is STILL a pathetic mess, and funding for it is being cut all the time.
They still have to fight for their benefits, that they are due.

I've also spoken to service members who really aren't comfortable with people thanking them for their service.
I've been told they chose to serve, and that requires no thanks.
They would rather, instead of being thanked (which really amounts to nothing more than "thoughts and prayers" ), people go after the politicians and bureaucrats to get REAL
changes which would actually benefit them and their families.

I know we have members who are veterans.
What are your thoughts?

KKGator 9 Nov 11
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I agree, I'd much rather have real bennies. But I also want to acknowledge to military families that I know your sacrifice and I appreciate it. Seriously, it makes my lead craycray when I talk to people with Tricare and I tell them I appreciate their service, especially the female soldiers and Air Force personnel. We gets lots of families from Offutt AFB using the hospital I work at. I wore that uniform for more than 6 years and then I was a "camp follower" for 12 more years. I know what it is to live far from family, I know what it is to move every few years. I know what it is to have the military member deployed for long periods of time. I know how to single parent because of the military. To me when I say Thank you for your service, I am saying I understand the struggle, I've been there, and I will vote to do better for you. Yeah, if it is a politician I'm going to check his/her voting record and likely tune them out. And Cadet Bonespurs just needs to STFU.

I saw your post on Facebook this morning, a little while after I had posted this.
I agree with you on all fronts.

I come from a military family. I understand every single thing you brought up.

@KKGator My kids tell me it was hard, moving so much and daddy being gone for a year. However, it made us all stronger with a much broader world view. And sometimes we're square pegs trying to fit in round holes, but it makes us the fascinating kick ass people we are.

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Thank You for saying what needs to be said. Money talks bull shit walks. Our elected officials do this every damn year, lots of kudos but the funding does not happen.
My thought is much more funding to out veterans, current service men and women and their families and way less talk.

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Most veterans detest the unpatriotic and corrupt idiot.

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My VA is really good !

You are very lucky. I'm very glad for you.

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I just heard about a poll today, that revealed ~40% of veterans don't even like being thanked. Most either, don't know how to respond to it, or just wish real work would be taken towards helping veterans re-acclimate after serving. I think it's way more, myself - but they are just too polite to say so.

Welcome to the asylum. Enjoy your stay.

Thank you for responding.
I hadn't heard about that poll, but I believe it.
All the veterans I know would MUCH rather that real action be taken
to address the issues effecting veterans, and active duty military, and their families.

Like I said, "thank you for your service" sounds no different to me than
"thoughts and prayers".
They're both useless sentiments and I think people say them to absolve
themselves from actually DOING anything useful.

@KKGator [wusa9.com].

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