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I teach pre-k for public school in Oklahoma. The school is required by LAW to say the pledge of allegiance and observe a moment of silence each day. I have no problem taking a moment to breathe and mediate. I do stand and salute but I never say "under God". One of my students noticed and asked why I didn't say it. I just said, "because I believe in the separation of church and state". I also don't force them or make it a big deal to do the pledge, but you can tell some kids have been "raised right". Sometimes I want to take a knee during the pledge lol, or at least not stand and salute at all. But I know the other teachers would scrutinize me during assemblies, or I fear a student will tell a parent who will then make my life hell. And since it is the law I could actually lose my job! Thoughts?

Ozwin 4 Mar 25
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I believe that I would condition myself, by keeping my personal beliefs...personal... unless you are ask. I liked your responce about 'separation of church and state.' You did not sell yourself out and yet you did not reveal, 'your all.' I doubt that you would find the perfect teaching environment for your nature, so the next best thing is to protect your 'inner nature.' You are there to perform a service, a professional...you are not there to convince anyone of your personal worth or beliefs! Your beliefs should support you in being an upright person, and that right is not given to you by any other person! That is what this country stands for, even as it appears strained at the moment!

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Fight it, what do you have to lose? Read that OK teachers are the worst paid in the country.

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Nope, I would stand up and loudly say fukit and throw both hands in the air showing the two handed one finger salute, if that's what I believed.

Since that's not my belief, I would think of the ones who are no longer with us because they died to help us enjoy what we have as I say the pledge, then I would reflect on my beliefs in the moment of silence while other do the same. I am very hard core when I need to be. I see the advantages of keeping us united and respecting other's beliefs.

I would have to question it as are my feelings to rebel due to it being a law, or against my own belief.

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It's a horrible situation. The 'moment of silence' is like torture for most kids. You can't legislate people into believing, geez.

More power to the teachers that struggle through.

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How can sitting or taking a knee in schools be against the law? That is so not separation of church and state!

Were u always agnostic/atheist? If not what made u change ur philosophy? Just curious.

I really would like to meet you, especially since ur a smoker. Believe it or not, it's beginning to be a deal breaker for some!!! Ugh!!!! LOL

Great pics by the way. U r really easy on the eyes!!! LMAO

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I enjoyed saying the pledge of allegiance every day in school when I was young. My classmates and I always hoped to be chosen to hold the flag in front of all the students on the playground. As an American who has lived abroad for many years, I consider saying the pledge to be important for US unity. Of course students should have the option to sit out of the pledge if they choose, but the pledge is important to be said. On a side note, I am also an educator and I make it a point to not express my political views to students because it is not the place for it. Outside of school, okay, but not in the classroom.

So what should I tell them instead? It's in the constitution, it's not really "my political views" it's America's view that church and state should be separate. It really is unconstitutional to require me to pledge my allegiance to a cloth, and acknowledge a God in school. Also teaching them blind nationalism is historically not a good thing.

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On one hand, you shouldn't forget history and still support patriotism. On the other, must feel like Nazi - Germany. Main thing is getting over yourself and respecting others choices.

I respect their choices and they should respect mine

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Play along. It's not worth losing your job.

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Turn your back to the class so they can't read your lips ...speak softly and mumble.

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You probably have to do it if you want to continue working as a teacher in that state. And being a Teacher is a very important and noble thing to do! If you are good at it, please don't stop.
What if, instead of saying "one nation, under God" you said "one nation, e pluribus Unum"
The motto E Pluribus Unum was first proposed by the U.S. Continental Congress in 1782, for use on the Great Seal of the United States.

I think that would be more aggressive than not saying it at all lol

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