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I am puzzled about who pays for the web space this site uses. I have not found any free web space in a very long time.

I also wonder who pays for the Tee shirts.

Lorajay 9 Dec 29
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I don't know what the long term business plan (if any) is. It is an entrepreneurial effort bankrolled by one person AFAIK.

I would guess the dream is to monetize the dating aspect of the site but it would have to reach a critical mass that we seem to be nowhere near, judging from what people using the site for that purpose report.

I don't have all my eggs in this particular basket, even for conversational purposes. I frequent three other sites. This hasn't been my primary site ever since the debacle a few months ago where they unilaterally pulled the general forums and hastily restored them after widespread protest. There's a bit of a transparency deficit here at times, that's insufficiently inclusive of members as part of the process.

Back around 2009 I used to be on a site called tbd.com which is now defunct. It was specifically for people 40 and older, and had many sub-forums by topic and was fantastic in terms of participation quality and loyalty, but like here, there was no coherent business plan and they closed up with almost no notice. There used to be an excellent atheism discussion forum on Seth Andrew's site, the Thinking Atheist, but he (again, unilaterally, with nearly zero notice and certainly no regard for the community that had built itself there) decided to shut down the forums.

I still miss those places, but have not allowed myself to rely on any online property to that extent, ever since these events. The TTA forum resurfaced at atheistdiscussion.org, through the kind generosity of a member in the UK, but tbd is no more.

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It is obvious I was too lazy to research the site before posting this question. Thanks to everyone for pointing me in the right direction. My bad, please forgive.

Depending on the size of the data base,number of free tees and the cost of the forum software, I'm guessing our benefactor is probably out about 1K annually. I hope it is all tax deductible for him/her and they are aware that I appreciate their efforts to enlarge our community.

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“Agnostic is a non-profit organization that doesn’t charge anything for the use of the site nor do we take donations. Our funding comes from private individuals who want to promote a positive image of atheists, agnostics, humanists and other secular views.“
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skado Level 9 Dec 29, 2019

Thanx for the refresher; I did remember reading this~
and a solid reason to join.

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@admin did post something about writing a book having to do with social issues and polarization (my recollection of his words, its in a post somewhere). Im sure its not the reason the site exists, but it might tie in with other research or data gathering. Yes conspiracy theories abound.

Link to a post in the senate a few months ago [agnostic.com]

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@Admin says he funds the site through money made from "other projects", which seems believable as a site such as this probably doesn't cost an enormous amount to run. There have, of course, been various conspiracy theories put forward. 🙂

Jnei Level 8 Dec 29, 2019
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I often wondered that, either Admin or some other person is very generous with sponsorship, or there is some sort of data sales.

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Maybe it's God, and he, she, it is just fucking with us.

well, I sure hope there's no business pretending to be "a higher power, the next generation". If it's a business, I don't mind as long as it's secular. I don't see how we can avoid websites doing business.

@KittensandSage l am a tech moron. I have no idea what it would cost to do this. I barely had 20th Century skills. ☺

@Sticks48 Until 2 years ago I owned a forum and photo gallery on Elegant and Everyday Glass from the Depression Era. The forum was probably at least a 1/2 as busy as this one and we had been online for 10 years.We archived all the questions, pictures and articles written by members. The adjacent gallery had over 19000 pictures with descriptive text. I gave the site to the West Virginia Museum of American glass 2 years ago and at that time my total expenditure was $700 a year.

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That is a very good question, I am sure someone must know!

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