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So, several months ago, a friend of a friend on FB posted some pro"Christian," pro conservative BS. I responded with some facts that counterdicted with links to data. He responded with " I must hate the military, and law-enforcement." I responded that I am actually an ex-veteran, and ex law-enforcement. His response was that " I couldn't possibly be either because of my views. This guy, btw, had neither military, nor law-enforcement experience... Not sure how to deal with such stupidity.

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i'm not sure how to deal with such stupidity also. But as neither ex-military or ex law enforcement, most vets (small world) I know aren't religious. But to see it in the mass media, the military is all in on god.

twill Level 7 Jan 30, 2020
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I have no time for people who refuse to use their (God-given, hence non-existent?) brains!

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Some folks realize that if you are able to label them as an enemy. immediately your lizard brain (NOT insulting you, just saying the deeply automatic and internal animal instinct part of your brain that all people have) will have a powerful bias against really listening to them, especially if disrespect or contempt is detected - so they have an invested interest in avoiding that impression. Some folks are guilty of lying to do so. MANY atheists are former theists, many used to argue the wrong side of the argument. Many people are influenced piecemeal and save face by not admitting that they were influenced. We (atheists) should always remember that no one is forced into being an atheist, they are loved into it. We should never feel compelled to "totally repair" someones entire mindset religiona dn politics all in one!

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Most atheists or democrats or socialists, but I am like Penn Gillette a libertarian atheist. I don;t like the owrd atheist. I do not like the idea of a special word to say that you do NOT believe someting (like astrology or alchemy or frenology) When it comes to special interest groups (such as an atheist group) if you wish to focus on religion, and the harm it does, avoid political divisions (and ANY and AL other divisions) among those who are atheist. Some 14% of atheists are conservative and about 2% are like me and Penn Gillette (on youtube). I consider myself to be "objectivst" ala Ayn Rand.

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I had a similar experience with an old friend in whom I had reconnected. He was Irish Catholic and moved to Ireland and became a flaming Catholic. I continued to meet his posts with evidence and reasoned questions which just made him mad. Eventually, he unfriended me. Let the other be the one that backs away.

If the person values your friendship just ask questions such that he must be blatantly illogical, dishonest, or admit the folly of mysticism based upon third party vicarious atonement, via a blood human sacrifice of a rabbi that was allegedly the son of god and born without any human father involved. A book, with unknown and unprovable authorship, cobbled together by a committee (whom we cannot name exactly) deciding which of "gods words" really are which tells us the Earth is a flat disk and the stars are holes in the canopy and that a snake "spoke" to the woman and she lied to Adam and so ALL humans were cursed ever after (and this was all god plan! -along with the Noah story" provides the reason for our so-called need for "salvation".
Modern science has quite extensively and exhaustively proved every aspect of evolution, and modern cosmology, although mush less settled, firmly and permanently contradicts these ancient theories of the universe and man. Modern educated adults without mental defect intuitively feel this and so must CONSTANTLY remind each other that they have to reinforce their belief weekly and publicly.
SO ALL direct debate about religion is like trying to get a young child with an "imaginary friend" , to admit their imaginary friend does not really exist. When someone tells me they believe in god I tell them they actually know that this is NOT true and they have been brainwashed into acting like an obviously stupid story is believable! Snakes do not speak, the Earth is billions of years old, evolution is logical and evident, and morality is learned ONLY intuitively and experientially. Anyone who thinks the bibles morals are acceptable should really read the whole OT without their Jesus glasses on!(Exo 21)

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He's delusional just block and avoid the headaches

bobwjr Level 10 Jan 26, 2020
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Just cut them out of your life completely, otherwise it will be like hitting your head against a brick wall. You cannot win a rational argument with people who have already decided they know better than you, even your own thoughts and actions!

Just either avoid that subject, or be very forceful and admant about it and they will cut you off, or have to listen to reason when you want them to!

@JOHNGALT The whole point I’m making is that it’s wasting time and expending energy without any prospect of them listening, so why bother? That is unless you like lost causes, because the chance of making them see reason is fanciful!

Already done. It's just odd the assumptions people have from watching TV

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You don't deal with people like that you laugh at them and know that eventually their own arguments will become so knotted they will strangle themselves.

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I usually unfollow people who post things I don't agree with on Facebook. That way, I'm still their friend so they can message me if they need to, but I'm not seeing their stupid bullshit.

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That's what rubber mallets are for.

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It's just his way of saying, I've made up my mind; don't confuse me with facts.

Many fundagelicals are deliberately blinkered. All you can do is plant seeds and hope they grow someday when conditions are different. And sometimes I think even that is wasted energy.

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Ignore is best because nothing will happen other than cause you irritation.

Ignore guarantees you will never be part of waking someone up! ONLY such actions will EVER convert a theist into a rational functional human being again!

@JOHNGALT Good luck then. Sounds like a messiah complex. Convert correlates to an evangelical mission.

My comment was to the individual that I replied to not as an operation to be followed for the general community.

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