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Here is the scenario:

Somewhere in the not to distant future mankind develops an Interstellar Warp Drive. We venture out into the Universe and explore strange new worlds...we discover new civilizations...BUT...

  1. These Sentient beings do not look like US...they resemble Lizards(think the old TV Series V)(and ironically if the Chixalub Asteroid had not wiped out the Dinosaurs the Raptors may have emerged dominant).
  2. These Sentient beings have a Monotheistic Religion that basically parallels our Christian beliefs.
  3. Their Doctrine(Holy Book) claims that THEY were created in GODS IMAGE.

What kind of CHAOS and resultant DEBATE would that cause in the Christian Society that will no doubt still exist in OUR Society?

This scenario repeats constantly with each new civilization that we discover with many different life forms.

phoenixone1 8 Feb 15
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Given human mentality, there is only one reason we would invest the enormous amounts of money required for interstellar exploration and that would be profit.
Therefore the religion of the "savages" we encountered would matter no more to the church than the religion of the "Injuns", Inuits, aborigines or Māori did. Their "primitive" belief would just be something for them to be saved from after we had conquered them, civilized them and exploited all of their resources.

Knowing our history as we do, the picture you paint is a sad possibility. The hope is that we evolve as a species to a level of wisdom that would prevent the mistakes of the past. Imagine a scenario where we search for thousands of years and only find one or two others sentient races...i can't speak for anyone else but for me that would be a scary thought.

@phoenixone1 There is of course the possibility that we may be the first species to achieve space travel, or indeed the first to evolve to a "civilised" "intelligent" level capable of such technology, in which case we will not find anything above the level of an ape.

@LenHazell53 there is a SyFy book titled "Echo" by Jack McDevitt that paints that scenario...good read.

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Don’t recall enough to describe it, but long ago I watched a study of people whose beliefs were totally debunked, if admitted by the one who’d deceived them. They so craved ‘something’ to believe in, they ignored him - and continued down the idiodic path they were on…

I think a large segment of humanity would worship a lizard god if it meant they could continue to avoid thinking for themselves 😉 - Yes - any Religious Nutcases … we’re laughing at you - not with you 😀

Varn Level 8 Feb 15, 2020

It's the old "I was told I was a sheep and I will die a sheep...even though it was proven I am a deer"...kind of makes sense based in what we see in the masses.

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IF christianity were to exist in the future it would not be literal as an interp any longer. thats where they went wrong.

That would be the ideal scenario I would think...i.e. Religion finally evolving or in this case opening Religious Theologians to a broader interpretation of what God really might be as opposed to a narrow minded "human interpretation" of what only man could imagine God to be. More of a "Universal General Consensus" if I may.

@phoenixone1 if you want a reconciliation I can do that right now. I already have that narrative.

@JeffMesser lets hear it...

@phoenixone1 god is a personification of the universe as a whole.

@JeffMesser for a sentient being who sees the bigger picture perhaps. I prefer to see the simple yet profound fact of "LIFE" itself as understood by humans as being God...without life and without sentient beings(for now US) there could be no concept of God. Assuming we are not alone in this Universe and other species have evolved at least to the point of "Questioning why and how they got here"...logic I believe dictates they would evolve essentially parallel to us in their religious footsteps. Personification I believe is a natural step in any religious journey.

I don't see how that narrative satisfies anything. sounds more like just an aphorism.

@JeffMesser your correct...it would be an aphorism. I think what I am getting at is that in order for religion to change it needs a spark of a new reality to initiate the shift and until we finally prove that "we are not alone" it is going to be pretty much the same...as the saying goes, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over the same way and expecting different results". The insanity that is the religion we now have will not change until a change is forced on it.

@phoenixone1 why does religion need to change? it calms the masses and we're all going or not going to the same place anyway. so just leave them to their ignorance.

@JeffMesser even though it is "Religion" it is still subject to the evolution of mankind so it must change and it must evolve or it will become extinct.

@phoenixone1 there was once a pack of traveling monks who journeyed around and about SE Asia seeking knowledge. They traveled together for protection as they were all blind but still desired to explore the countryside. They happened upon the Buddha resting near a bodhi tree as he enjoyed watching a friendly elephant take a bath in a nearby pond. "Oh teach us Master" they begged the Buddha. "But it is you who have much to teach me" the Buddha responded. "For instance ... what is this thing in the water that amuses me so? I will grant a boon to whichever of you may answer correctly." Curiously they approached the elephant, a creature unknown so far north, and each attempted to answer his question. The first reached out and touched the elephants trunk. "Surely it is a snake my Lord."
The second patted the elephant on its' massive side "No no, it is a hut for resting from the sun."
The third, near the elephant's leg, added "you are both wrong ... it is a tree!"
The fourth, at the beasts' rear, offered as he touched the tail "you are all mistaken. this is a caretaker's whip. we must be on a farm."
Suddenly the elephant let out a blare and the last quipped "those are trumpets! it must be a musician".
"Tell us Master, who deserves the boon?"
"You are all correct" the Buddha answered. "and I shall call each of you my teacher" which was a huge sign of respect. And a significant boon.

@JeffMesser excellent...namaste

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I see no debate. The humans would decise their gods were better. Christians would go un unemcumbered, in fact if we use history as a model the religion would become stronger.

So basically your saying it would cause a wider division that would then extend into the cosmos thus probably stirring another broader "argument".

@phoenixone1 When relgion experiences failures the proponents get more religious as a rule.

@DavidLaDeau or if there is a quandary that cannot be resolved a new form of the same religion will form as was the case with Martin Luther.

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