Well,, if you think a drop in homicide rate of .6 percent sense the ban a tremendous success,, okay..

Regarding the last part of your comment, you're just joking right? I personally knew of a few guys who had dealings in the black market, and they would secure contacts who worked on military/state guard bases who would help them to steal weapons to sell on the black market. One guy wanted to sell me a 45 and a couple of live grenades. It is far easier to obtain illegal weapons than you think.

@SpikeTalon 20 years after the buyback, not in aussie it isn't

@Cyklone The black market is present everywhere, assuming one knows where to look and has the determination to do so.

@SpikeTalon firearm related deaths in aussie in 2017 = less than 1 per 100,000. Firearm related deaths in usa in 2017 12.2 per 100,000. So much for your black market theory.
Those figures include suicides and if you just look at homicides the firearm related deaths in aussie are 0.1 per 100,000. If you look at a graph of firearm deaths in aussie since 1980 it shows a decreasing curve that you would expect as the firearms are slowly removed from the population. The effect of the black market economy is negligible, probably because of their great expense on the black market putting them out of the reach of petty criminals.

@Cyklone I'm not talking about the bloody statistics, my point is that if someone is determined to get their hands on a deadly weapon, they will find a way. The laws sure didn't stop a lunatic from your country last year who went on a shooting spree at a mosque.

@SpikeTalon okay, we're obviously arguing at cross purposes then. However, I would like to point out that New Zealand and Australia are two different countries and the mosque shooting was in NZ. We would happily annexe the place but then we'd have to put up with all them bloody kiwis.