1 how did we get here? 2 Morality 3 intelligent design 4 Fine tuning 5 prayer and intervention 6 scripture 7 personal experience

I am sure that I have forgotten a few. It still does not change the fact that none of these arguments stand up to any scrutiny

To be honest theists havent had any good arguments with me They only have a few shots to fire like 'the weeping for me because I am going to die in hellfire and damnation" But I have a stony face for it these days and just don't play my hand - they give up at some point - if I just stare blankly people around will often weigh in to get them to leave me alone as well.

Here are a few common arguments I've heard over the years:

• "But, where do your morals come from?" (Religion is every bit as relativistic, only calcified in dogma; non-theists who care about ethical questions often adopt a form of reason-based humanism.)
• "From nothing comes nothing." (This is a cosmological argument, which fails to justify its premise, because we can't know how the universe functioned outside of the aspects of time and space that emerged within.)
• "It takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God." (No, it really doesn't take faith to deny the validity of an unsubstantiated claim.)
• "You've just gotta have faith." Or, "Faith is a gift." (An appeal to revelation can't be corroborated, so it's useless as a measure of veracity.)
• "Well, what if you're wrong?" (Pascal's wager fails in a few ways, but, for example, if a god exists there are countless ways to potentially anger it and no guarantee that disbelief of skepticism is a path to eternal damnation.)
• "Are you absolutely sure there's no absolute truth?" (Lack of belief in a god doesn't mean there's no objective reality.)

The one I love the most... When you present logical arguments they cannot deny and feel totally corner usually their way out is "oh well, God works in mysterious ways"

Argument never is a discussion to me

The old tired "A watch implies a watchmaker." In response, I pointed out picture jasper, which sure enough looks like it was designed by an intelligence, but which was formed by simple chemistry. I suppose that someone could respond with "Why couldn't God have designed that?" Only then they'd have to explain why God seems to like designing landscapes that look like thrift store paintings.

Another one: the bandwagon approach; that is, that people have believed in Jesus for so long that it has to be true. My response: Lots of people believe that there is big money in chain letters, and they have believed it for years.

I've heard no rational arguments, just wishful thinking.

None. So far I've heard people say that they simply believe - faith and all that, no proof required , or more importanly - sought.

The most cogent arguments I hear are syllogistic. At least, they always sound clever.

The most common one is faith, which basically says "I'm too lazy to find out the truth, so this is good enough for me."

Mostly stuff related to intelligent design. Which sometimes can be very interesting.

I can't be arsed with it

Theists believe on an emotional level. There cannot be an argument because facts are meaningless to them. In their opinion God can do anything so they use this argument to trump any facts you may have.