@RoboGraham Oh, I think there are plenty of Dems, even liberal Dems, who get it, but aren't willing to admit it to themselves much less admit it to progressives. I've had plenty of people argue with me about it, but I still believe in my bones that this is the main reason for people not voting in federal elections, because they've figured out it's rigged and useless, so they don't bother. It's obvious that if fed level elections were not so dominated by big money, then we would have much higher voting rates for those elections.