I do feel that with this type of perception being so often repeated by members at the highest levels of government the issue needs to be discussed and dealt with. Whether they get some type of mediator or some type of instititional social worker, it should be getting addressed. There should also be a commjssion that sets up some standards and addresses it. It just feels like a huge problem going undealt with.

Placing incindiery labels is indeed provoking. Considering the on edge nature of things even using words that provoke are possibly inciting.

@Flowerwall Inciting to do what? Bore each other to death?

Where is the comprehensive report that lines out and disputes all the charges? I want to read it. From what I understand more lawsuits are emerging weekly regarding the election. How has it all been flrmly disproven to you? What explains the high adjudication rates we have seen? Is the purpose of the machines not to COUNT the ballots so it does not have to be done by hand?

Would you close your bank account if your ATM card only worked 50% or less of the time?

@Flowerwall It doesn't need to be disproven. It needs to BE proven. That hasnt occurred. And, now, it seems all you want to do is parrot the same bullshit that those republicans and tRump have lied about. Your logic is flawed. And after being nice to start with your request for non inflammatory language, well, that doesn't work as you are doing exactly what those politicians who mouth the same bullshit, then throw out a set answer that doesn't fit what is being told to you.

@Flowerwall have you ever worked as a poll worker? I have and because of other election abnormalities I have done lots of comparisons between my state and others. Georgia has a very similar system to Oklahoma's. Oklahoma is a blood red state and I'm a Democrat but I fully support the methods that are used by my States election board. I have been involved in recounts and state law both here and in Georgia require ballots to be hand counted and require three people for each counting station one from each political party in the election and an election official.
The last one I was involved in, my candidate lost but because I understand the process it never crossed my mind or the losing candidates mind to throw a screaming fit about the election being unfair.

Oklahoma does not use Dominion election software or machines but 28 other states do. Many of those States recorded a win for Donald Trump in 2020. Like Oklahoma the precincts do not use the internet to record their voter tally but instead the machine is taken to the county to be input into a local computer not connected to the internet and that county takes their thumb drive to the state for the final tally.

An audit was performed in Georgia and that audit would work like it does in Oklahoma which means every ballot counted has to be from a registered voter. That includes absentee ballots which are also audited against the number of absentee ballot sent out. Each returning balance had to have a recognized government ID image attached.

I will never understand why normally intelligent people have not tried to understand how modern elections are conducted in their state.

Yes they were probably some abnormalities. The near volume of balance cast in the United States almost mandates that that will happen. When you look at Georgia the possibility for abnormalities could never create a win for Trump.

@Lorajay "have you ever worked as a poll worker?" No, but I have listened to a lot of the testimony presented at various hearings. I would like to see where it all gets lined out and refuted.There needs to be a process.

@Flowerwall there were lots of processes and I'm sure they're all available on public records. Since you're the one that wants to see them I hope you will continue to investigate.

@Lorajay I wish I could do just that. No not all of these concerns were addressed.

@Lorajay I also hear now AZ is agreeing to a forensic audit. This will be an important step.

@Flowerwall
Ok today is January 30 and Trump's legal team has lost 60 court cases around the country. I one case, when lawyer Giuliani was asked point blank by a judge if he was asserting fraud had been committed, he was compelled by the ethical and legal norms of his profession to tell the judge the truth. And so Giuliani told the truth: he was not alleging that fraud had been committed.I think this occured just after he was caught with Borat's daughter but before his hair dye made him look like some kind of asylum escapee. I'm not sure where the 4 Seasons landscaping fiasco fits in the chronology but Lesly Powel's bombshell that Hugo Chavez reached out from his tomb to sabotage all Dominion's voting machines... Anyway, now that we have all this new information, I'm just wondering, do you still think the election was stolen by the shadowy deep state cabal of blood sucking, pizza devouring pedophiles?

@Flyingsaucesir Yes, I know some people have belief in "shadowy deep state cabal of blood sucking, pizza devouring pedophiles", but I didn't realize there were many on this particular website. For instance, some people believe in flying saucers, but not everyone. To each their own. If you are a believer in UFOs or the pizza conspiracy, I know some people do believe in some ideas that the mainstream does not. I think it's best to verify information as much as possible from reputable sources then decide who is the most credible.

I was not aware of this, but after a quick search found a recent criminal case involving an elected official and a scheme involving children. It certainly does happen that people in high places commit crime, and the people who engage in such conduct don't stop at partisan lines. It is in an area where voter fraud accusations have been made. Those accusations are likely unrelated to this criminal matter, however given the high level of cronyism often present in these high positions it is not out of the realm of possibility that more criminal conduct could be afoot by elected officials in this area. Only time and a proper investigation would tell.

Who are the white supremacists they have worked with? Just because political extremism exists, and they exist on both sides and more, and certain extremists may associate with a particular side does not negate an entire political party. Nor does it mean applying incendiery labels to others on the entire opposite side are fitting. Whether the lawmakers believe in white supremacy is the ENTIRE point. That along with understanding the why of their viewpoints.

@Flowerwall Bullshit. If I work with the mob, knowingly, then I am just as guilty no matter what I believe about them. Those wanting and needing the white supremacists votes are no better than the white supremacists.

@Beowulfsfriend "Who are the white supremacists they have worked with?" Please answer.

"If I work with the mob, knowingly, then I am just as guilty no matter what I believe about them. " So when you say mob, you mean those who use violent tactics to acheive their ends? What is the refernce to the mob? Do you mean literally "The Mob"?