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When we were shocked by reality, we knew that religion is an illusion, and likewise love is just an illusion based on interests, even with the closest people to you.
Love is the biggest deception for humanity, to see it open your eyes so widely.

Detached 4 Mar 15
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"Love is a lie to promote procreation"

Maybe if we didn't try so hard to idealize romantic love we wouldn't be so disapointed.

ABack Level 6 Mar 18, 2021

@Detached Totally agree as I've also been disappointed in love but I'm glad it happened as it was a very enlightening experience despite being very painful.
The pursuit of love is driven by needs, and some people just happen to be needier than others (and that could be related to the extent of their childhood emotional needs being met as they were growing up).
Once you fall in love you lose control of your life in some ways, you basically give up on the responsibility to meet your own needs whatever they might be.
The falling itself is rooted (subconsciosly) in the strong belief that your needs will be met by the other person but....the needier one is the more chances of disappointment and heartbreak. It's probably one of the most painful but useful lessons life can teach you....
Then you start taking care of your needs yourself instead of depending on one person, then life gets better and you get stronger than you have ever been before!

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ohhhhhhh, you have shattered my whole life with that. I am still waiting for Mr Right and now I will not know what to do with myself anymore.

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Only a pathetic little individual who has never had a true friend or partner or even a pet, could deny they existence of love and just how much it can benefit your life.

Consider this, if you are capable of so much resentment and hate how can you be so sure their antithesis does not exist?

@Detached
How sad, you must be so lonely.

@LenHazell53 ............ maybe. but to think as he does, in the culture he comes from, that deserves the brass figligree with oak leaf clusters. the world is full of unknown heroes like him.

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Why out of all emotions, would you pick on love?

Mvtt Level 7 Mar 17, 2021

@Detached So she said to you. I never, ever wants to see you.

@Detached do you wonder whether you have “come into” this world, or have “come out” of it?

@Detached I understand and empathise with you. Feel the same as you on some of your points. However I feel you are missing the Art of life in your ethics.

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Does this assume a common understanding as to what love actually is? I feel love morphs over time. It may start at interests or conditions. Most then fizzle out as conditions change. But true love grows steadily. To deny that means you just never met folks like my parents in their waning years.

They did, but I’m referring to their love for each other. It was beautiful.

@Detached You need to have a child of your own to understand that. In your case it will probably never happen.

@jolanta . Why must you turn this free thinking converation nasty and bitchy every time you speak?

@holdenc98 Oh I though it was about free conversation but maybe you only want sugary sweet stuff.

@Detached she answered very well. She doesn’t need your grief

@Detached you were rude to Johanna. As far as my parents go, you would have to ask them. As a parent, nurturing may be more instinctual, then propagating your bloodline.

@jolanta ... Being free is not an obligation to inflict hurt. Whats the point of that? Just talk amongst yourself.

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Love is an attraction that might lead to being together and living together. If it comes to that then love becomes a decision. If this attraction is based on the physical only it might become short lived. The togetherness might end if one of the parties goes in another direction or one party wants to be in control of the other.

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Your essay is too brief. Reality does take illusions away.

Would you agree that:love is a deception based on interests?

Would you agree that we use the deception to conceal the reality of the interests?

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If by this you mean both are undeniably fake then I agree.

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What a pitiful and miserable statement. You are obviously detached but not just in name but from humanity.

This is a philosophy group, and philosophy requires detachment. You are obviously attached.

@yvilletom who the fuck cares about your requirements of this group or for philosophy, which by the way are totally and absolutely wrong? You are correct in one thing, though, I am attached to reality, evidence, humanity and definitely not to bullshit. For your education, this is what philosophy is: Philosophy (from Greek: philosophia, 'love of wisdom'😉 is the study of general and fundamental questions, such as those about reason, existence, knowledge, values, mind, and language. Such questions are often posed as problems to be studied or resolved. Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational argument, and systematic presentation. Does any of this sound as detachment to you? To post absurdities about love, no less, in a Philosophy group in which the name itself is derived from the LOVE of wisdom was total bs, and your detachment theory lies notbthat far from the poster's heap of dung.

@Mofo1953 Ah, you are again your usually gentle self, though at much greater length.

@yvilletom I feel so silly responding to some of these posts. I neglect to read which group they come from. If I saw that it was philosophy, I would know it’s time to contemplate my bellybutton lint....

@yvilletom sarcasm? Sure. But doesn't make you right at all so learn from my bluntness.

@Mofo1953 Not trying to be right; trying to be last. Period.

@yvilletom good to admit you're wrong. Now about being last, you can try but the only place you can truly be last is in your own retrograde mind.

@Mofo1953 ...BACK IN YOUR CAGE, MOFO! BACK I SAY! BACK !

@holdenc98 wait for it!

@Mofo1953 ... what di i just say to you mr mofo!....sit! ... sit ! .... now , STAY !

@holdenc98 fuck you! I don't sit or stay for anybody, much less for bitches like you. Although if you suck my dick I may allow you to swallow my jizz.

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This society has changed the fundamental meaning of love to a thing of committment. William Meader said, "Love recognizes the underlying unity of all things" and I think that is closer to it's truth.

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Romantic "love" is merely the temporary engagement of consorting pairs (as observed in other higher-order animals). It is how nature gets babies born. If it were anything more than that, then over fifty percent of marriages would not end in divorce. Also, it is notable that most marriages that do not end in divorce are not happy...just continue for the convenience. A happy permanent union is a very rare occurrence.

It may be rare, but I had one for about 15 years, but then dementia cheated both me and my wife from a much longer happy union. Glad to find out I'm the rare romantic. I suppose that's why I really miss having a partner and am not so bitter and cynical about relationships as most divorced people seem to be, because my one LTR was really positive. Now, talking about the dating game, that's another matter, as it has given me plenty to feel cynical and bitter about, probably because it is mostly filled by divorced people who are mostly bitter and cynical about relationships and love in general. Thus, they play a lot of games, project a lot of their stuff onto other people, and push most people away with their many defenses, at least, those are my theories on why the dating game sucks so much. I have a feeling if the dating sites were just widowed people, things would be much more positive and certainly more kinder.

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