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Imagine throwing a Book of Mother Goose nursery rhymes on the table in front of a kid . You tell the kid that he has two choices either he believes every single word In the book or you’re gonna blow his brains out. That would be crazy but that is basically what’s being done to indoctrinate kids in the church in regards to getting saved and hell. The Bible is the book of fables and hell is the gun going to blow your brains out except hell is much worse than a bullet.

The fear of hell dominated me for most of my life. Why is that not child abuse. I can still remember how scared I was as a little boy listening to a preacher talk about it.

abyers1970 7 May 17
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Try looking up the arguments of Epicurus, made two and a half thousand years ago, but it still asks a question that religions like that can not answer.

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I can imagine it because I am a PK (preacher's kid) and now agnostic. You're right about the book of fables. The indoctrination continues for xtians and muslims alike. Just look at what's happening in Israel now! Those religious idiots are killing each other left and right, blowing up buildings like doll houses. Both sides think they're right, and we non-believers know they're all wrong. Showed a little girl pulled out of a leveled building - what kind of a fucking god that is supposed to love "his children" would allow such a thing?
So my boss is catholic, and he opines recently that all the folks in Palestine should be killed so the jews in Israel can live happily. WTF? Those poor xtian bastards (catholics are xtians with a few extra crazy thoughts) are so mislead - it's staggering. He's a pretty nice guy, but he was indoctrinated to think "we are commanded to protect the jews!" Hell, xtians don't really even like jews coz they think the jews killed Jesus. They all hope they are one of the 144,000! I tell xtians if you're right and I'm wrong, after the rapture and the rise of the antichrist, I'll kill the antichrist (I'm a really good shot)!!!

The arrogance of these "my tribe is better than your tribe" lunatics has reached lethal proportions.

@anglophone Word!

@Stilltrying1964 you don't even know what agnostic really means, do you

@bbyrd009 no why don't you expand my horizons? I'm just a licensed engineer who aced every writing class I ever took and read the dictionary for fun. But you go ahead and enlighten me!! Douche!

@Stilltrying1964 nah, youre gnostic, so it's whatever you want it to be, i guess...the site def works for me tho

still enjoying the irony here, a gnostic hippie with White Male Rage, on an "agnostic" site lol--hey, do you have a MAGA hat, bac? 😀
ok have a good one

@anglophone "The arrogance of these "my tribe is better than your tribe" lunatics has reached lethal proportions" ha no kidding

Um, loved your op though!

@bbyrd009 here's some white male rage: if I had a maga hat, I'd set it on fire and shove it up you're xtian "think you're smarter than us" ass! Now piss off. Go bait somebody with a maga hat.

@Stilltrying1964 not meaning to bait ok, honest. I feel for anyone who was in the cult of sol, and im glad you saw the light, even if you did not discover that from the Bible.

The Gnosticism is maybe a separate deal? Dunno, but hopefully you see that when you make such statements on a public forum, you will inevitably get responses? You began this exchange with me, yes?

No, he is most likely not right at all about the Bible, which you most likely have never cracked, or you would know better than to make the statements you are making. And i am hardly what one would label xtian, either

Ten minutes of google search would reveal where our concept of hell comes from, not that i would expect a child to accomplish that of course, but there are no doubt many worse ways to grow up, too, i mean you seem to have turned out fine?

“The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible” SClemens
you might get over yourself just a little bit

@bbyrd009 you might suck a dick. I'm a pk asshole.

@bbyrd009 ok now I'm going to predict that a certain douchebag with a small dick and nothing better to do than go where you're not welcome will retort with some other stupid smartass remark. Ok dickless fuck, go on! I know you can't help yourself. Say something else stupid.

@Stilltrying1964 got it bad, huh? You know you are always going to be everyone’s bitch with all those buttons eh. Plus of course no one will really pay any attn to you. You wanna end your days lashing out at people who mean you no harm? Up to you, and no skin off my nose, ok?

Feel free to tag me and vent again, anytime you need to, no prob. Have a nice day.

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It IS Child Abuse...BUT...there is a distinct "Separation of Church and State"...which allows them "Freedom of Religion"...it's a double edged sword is it not...?

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It is child abuse, and I speak as a victim. The fact that it is not recognised as child abuse is a clear indicator that the God Mob still has far too much power in legislatures around the world.

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I was brought up Roman Catholic from what I recall the nap that I took while he was spewing his b*** was very comforting. 😁

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Because the church is very powerful especially in the Bible belt

bobwjr Level 10 May 17, 2021
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Well no offense but Gehenna is on earth, and the Bible itself will tell you to not be believing other deceived people? The blind leading the blind, etc
He who says he knows anything, does not...

Homeslice, you are in the wrong motherfucking place to go spewing such nonsense! Go blow a priest!

@Stilltrying1964 yeh i'm kinda curious why they just don't rename the place gnostic.com and be done with it myself lol
ok best of luck to you, and have a nice day

ps not to beat a dead horse here, but a bible would tell you who the real priests are too 🙂

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I had very similar experiences, and my mad mum genuinely believed she was "saving my soul" and not turning me in to an emotionally damaged loon with only years of therapy to look forward to.

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I DO consider it child abuse. Fortunately, I was raised in a not very Catholic household. We kids were “sent” to church, “educated” with the Catechism, and “made” our “First Holy Communion” and “Confirmation”, but my mother didn’t really “practice”, except for Easter and Christmas. In retrospect, I think my mother decided to meet her “responsibility” to raise us as Catholics, but pretty much left us to draw our own conclusions, which I did by the age of 7. Each of the three siblings came to a different conclusion: I am a strongly anti-theist agnostic, leaning toward full atheism, my brother practiced no religion, but believed in god and was in fact afraid to die, and my sister, after three failed marriages, found the perfect husband and married Jesus...she is a Catholic Sister.

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“Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be true.“
Thomas Paine

You should repost that in the Quotes group, its a good one.

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I can find a talking bird in real life; I have never seen a talking bush. Mother Goose wins.

Moses: God spake unto me from a burning Bush
Moses's Mom: What have I told you about eating magic mushrooms you find growing in the desert! You silly boy!

@LenHazell53 funny you mention a talking bush! The same one that's blazing but not consumed by the fire! I once told my bible-thumpin' self-righteous brother (to whom I no longer speak) that Moses and I are both men, one no better than the other. So if there's a god, let him set that palm tree over there on fire for me. Assbag says "you ain't no Moses!" And I said you are judging me, and Matthew 7:7 explicitly says not to do that. They pick and choose what they want to adhere to.

@Stilltrying1964 The evangelicals are good at hypocrisy, even when you point it out with their book. Most have no idea about th ed history of their religion either. The evangelicals think they always existed and the catholic church is heretical. I saw a hand painted sign in West Virginia that said following Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Catholics were roads to hell.

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