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This article is what does my head in with Covid and vaccines. I just wish to point out several things.

  1. Definitions are important. If someone "fully vaccinated" contracts Covid then they obviously never attained immunity. Immunity is the very definition and point of vaccination so why are we calling these medicines vaccines?
  2. A lot of emphases on efficacy with the "rolls royce" vaccines being above 90%. Well, there is a vaccine above 90% by all accounts but is never mentioned in MSM.......because it is of Russian origin; Sputnik V. This ignoring of this product is not based in medicine or science, instead it is purely ideological/ political.
    We are told this is a world wide pandemic in which all of humanity are "in it together". Accept and trust the science. We will control it together, humanity, so why not employ the best technology available? Don't care who made it, if it is the most effective then use it. At least consider it as an option.

The author's article is about why the most vaccinated place on Earth is getting case surges, then out her reasoning of the "why?" this is occurring Only to conclude by encouraging more of the same and expecting a different result.
My head hurts
[abc.net.au]

powder 8 May 20
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Wait, are you saying that the emergency response is not good enough? I mean, we're in a pandemic with a highly communicable disease that kills between 1 to 4 percent of the people it infects, and you appear to demand perfection of the defenses (vaccines) that were barely on the drawing board in early 2020?

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Silly question, but if they want to sell it to us just go thru the FDA process. Each country has there own process. The double blind randomized trial of a good sized population (50k or so) should be fine. Come Russia submit your application to US and AU.

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IIUC, FDA vaccine approval historically takes many years. These EUAs happened quickly (who would advocate differently? ). I don't recall any health authority claiming immunity for any of them, rather the claims are -- no hospitalization/death. Recently the claims of less ability-to-transmit have been strengthened. IMO, those are really good benefits, way more important
than definitions.

I would not trust anything that Russian/Chinese say about their vaccines. 😛

@powder I'm not aware of ANY "legislation is employed that allows the mandating of vaccines"

The publications of peer reviews of Sputnik V are recent (2/21) -- well after 'launch'.

[washingtonpost.com]

I don't think Russian/China is (or will be) reporting all infection/death rates accurately/verifiably.

@powder "death tolls everywhere are a tad dodgy" -- whataboutism

I would support federal (not local, everyone different) evidence-of-vaccination mandates.
"Your right to swing your fist ends at my face" (analogy).
No one has the right to (asymptomatic) not get jab(s) and infect others.

@powder As I said, no health authority is claiming the jabs provide immunity.

[gavi.org]

@powder look up Global Pandemic 😛

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