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To the X Christians in the group I still don't get the god-fearing part. You're supposed to fear the all-knowing, all merciful wonderful god? If you don't follow all of god's Commandments he'll strike you down? Please enlighten me as to the explanations you were given for why you should be god fearing, or if I'm not understanding the true meaning of the term. Thank you

lerlo 8 July 21
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This whole fear of the wrath of god thing is the secret sauce, the key hook for Christianity to trap its followers. Recognizing what a complete oxymoronic impossibility it represents was also key to me escaping my own Pentecostal indoctrination in my late adolescence. I had already figured out the church authorities were hypocritical crooked salesmen with no legitimate authority. I then learned of various contradictions, factual errors, and morally bankrupt messages tucked into the bibble, disproving the claim to being the infallable word of the almighty.

Letting go the belief in cosmic punishment for being wrong was the last challenge for me to escape the god belief trap altogether. It happened when I realized (just like others here are saying) the impossible contradiction of the Abrahamic claims of an almighty, omniscient, wrathful epitome of love that God is supposed to be. If God exists and IS love, it would never create humans as flawed and ignorant and prone to selfish, nearsighted mistakes as we are, only to then condemn billions of us to eternal torment for the "sin" of being as he made us. Boom! End of god worship.

Very well said. ๐Ÿ™‚

Couldn't have said it better. When i became a parent, I thought emulating God would be the ideal way to be one. The more i researched the more i thought that i would never treat my children the way God treats people in the bible. My favorite one is when God sent bears to maim and kill boys for calling his prophet Baldy. Wow that sure is mature of him to do that

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There is a reason god is referred to as โ€œfatherโ€ as in god the father. I believe it was to set up a parent as overlord of the family thousands of years ago. This was likely an act that saved many lives as having one leader/guide/father cut way down on questions.

My mother used to say; Iโ€™ll put the fear of god in you! To which I innocently answered, but I donโ€™t fear god since I canโ€™t see him. That made the fear-of-god lesson memorable for sure.

Most people on this site are "christian centric". There were a number of so called "pagan" religions in which women (Mother) were the god.

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The bible is full of guilt of sin and fear of hell.

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the bible can be summed up in a word - fear. fear and punishment... ok two words - fear, punishment, and shame...๐Ÿคญ How could we leave out shame. ok. ok. the bible can be can be summed up in three words...๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคฃ.

Monty Python fan huh?

@lerlo lol! yep! love the spanish inquisition bit. ๐Ÿ™‚

@Donna_I "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" ๐Ÿ˜‰

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In scripture, fear is used to express a filial or a slavish passion. In good men, the fear of God is a holy awe or reverence of God and his laws, which springs from a just view and real love of the divine character, leading the subjects of it to hate and shun every thing that can offend such a holy being, and inclining them to aim at perfect obedience. This is filial fear.

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It's like fear the Masonic lodge secret religion racist devil worshippers driving police cars or they will terrorize you with red and blue lights to beat you like Rodney king or murder you like the others. Submit to Authority-666 pay taxes.

Word Level 8 July 21, 2021

I was with you there for a moment

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The God fearing part of Christian theology, was first introduced at the time when Christianity was at conflict with the classical schools of philosophy. Where the followers of Epicurus especially, and some of the Stoics held that there could never be any need to fear god, since if god was all good, how could it do unjust harm, and therefore it could not do evil or ask you to do evil.

Christian theology however held that it was possible that god could ask you to do something that would at least seem to be evil, and it was still your duty to obey.
This was held to be a key difference between believers and the followers of philosophy.

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I was told that fearing god is the same as respecting god. And that just like a parent, sometimes fear is necessary to get the child to follow the parent who knows best.
I distinctly recall when I decided to no longer follow christ out of the fear of what would happen if I didnt. First step to becoming agnostic.

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As a child I thought it was odd that a loving God had to use the threat of damnation burning in hell if you did not believe all the silly bible stories.

BethPl Level 4 July 21, 2021
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Can you please delete the double posting? I've heard it said that fearing god was respecting god.

I was told it was only posted once

@lerlo Look under recent posts and you will see both of your post.

@xenoview it's not even in my posts on my profile. Maybe you could look the other way? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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That fear thing I also don't get, along with the "prayer" thing... god is all-knowing, and Omniscient, but you... and your limited knowledge want to pray to it/she/him to change it's mind ? weird and self absorbed if you ask me....

Leetx Level 6 July 21, 2021

The people who refuse to think this matter through suffer from a crippling cognitive disability.

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There are some things which are just not meant to be understood. Understand?

You just invented a euphemism for the mysterious ways bullshit. Very clever.

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If you care to read John Edwards sermon, โ€œSinners in the Hands of an Angry Godโ€, it paints a picture of a wrathful merciless God. Truth is, this was the popular perception during this time period. The idea of God being โ€œbenevolentโ€ in nature is a fairly new concept.

Buck Level 5 July 21, 2021
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That term puzzled me, too, during my years in the church. The best explanation that I got was that "fear" was a poor choice of word, and that it should more properly be understood as "deep respect".

For what it's worth, I don't actually know if this interpretation holds up linguistically.

"Fear the Lord" thundered the priest from his pulpit, making it plain to all and sundry through his body language that everybody needed to be terrified of the Lord.

@anglophone I think that difference in interpretation of fear is key to the tension between old line protestant vs evangelical protestant (fire and brimstone) churches.

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Also the mystery is part of the cult appeal .

Modern science has solved most of the riddles .

It is no longer fun when nothing is a inside joke.

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The Bible is built around the psychotic idea that you are supposed to revere your parental masters as a slave who deserves to be punished for someone else's crimes .

The military still does this to it's recruits :
If one gets into trouble, then everyone suffers for it.

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