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It is not the flags and banners which kill you and win the battle. But the bullets.
It is not the figure head conflicts such as evolution versus creation, with which religion most opposes science and philosophy, but by its wasting vast resources, money , time, human energy and natural resources, all of which could instead be spent on real education.

Imagine a world, where everyone spent a couple of hours every week, gathering together, in a purpose built building, to study science, morality, philosophy, economics and history, and then talked about them afterwards.

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I like to imagine your 2nd paragraph. In fact, prior to the pandemic, I was attending monthly meetings doing just that. They DO exist. I am sure no one here is the slightest bit shocked to hear my group here is actually a secular humanistic Freethinkers group.

The problem is, though, such gatherings require personal motivation and enough effort to actually make the gatherings happen. That is a tall order.

Well done. It is a tall order and my second para. was mainly hypothetical to throw light on just how the first is so extremely stupid. As I said to Mcflewster below though, in the UK we do find that as the churches fade at least the specialist, ( geeky if you like ,) clubs do grow, it may not be ideal, but it is something better than church.

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It won't happen unless YOU( meaning every reader ) makes it happen. It is a good idea. Things do happen but never in the way you expect. Do you think this would happen in the Greta( i.e young ) community i.e unfettered by us oldies?

No, I do not think it has the remotest chance of happening. The only reason for the second part, which is purely hypothetical, was to put the negative comment in the first part in prespective.

But to a lesser extent it has happened in the UK, and may happen in even to those unlucky enough to live across the pond, but it tends to be more specialist, hobby, clubs which benefit as the churches decline, no bad thing but not the big idea.

@Fernapple Hypotheitcal means "capable of turning into an hypothesis .e to take a suggestion and devize a way of subjecting it to a positive result test.
I actually go once a month to a town hotel bar where we actually do what is in the second paragraph .[ If you have any further questions please message me privately] Trouble is they are not very good at reaching any practical conclusions, but I enjoy it even though there are not enough scientists in the group

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Umm, it sounds great, until you think about the red-hatted MAGA--fools who would no doubt show up

No, it is only a comment on what is wrong, not something that could ever happen.

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Many of the world's dilemma's could be understood and resolved that way.
And much fun to sit around talking about it.

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Sure would be an ideal world.

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