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Does being pantheist mean believing in God?

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KarlHannah 5 Apr 22
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Yes and no. Merriam Webster defines "pantheism" as:
1: a doctrine that equates God with the forces and laws of the universe
2 : the worship of all gods of different creeds, cults, or peoples indifferently; also : toleration of worship of all gods (as at certain periods of the Roman empire) [merriam-webster.com]

The first does not see "god" as separate from the universe.

The second is the acknowledgement that all gods are "god."

Which do you mean?

And then, there is panentheism, which is different from both of the above.

OK, so I mean #1+#2(pt2): God=Natural Law & tolerance of ignorant zombies.

@KarlHannah I do not know what you mean. Can you explain in more detail?

@Gwendolyn2018 Pantheism is not about worshipping all gods. Never has been. The second definition is totally wrong.

It is about respect, including the rights of people to worship whichever delusional fantasy they choose to. It's about tolerating the diversity of religious belief systems humans have. But that's a minor point.

Most of all, it's about recognising that everything that exists deserves respect. It's about living with an appreciation for the massive diversity of thoughts and ideas, people and animals, all of life, and all inanimate objects. Only in the presence of what we dislike can we fully appreciate that which we like. But that doesn't mean that what I dislike has to be physically next to me. It just has to exist, somewhere, for me to reference it and contrast against it.

I worship the universe as a whole because it helps me to clarify and articulate who and what I am, and who and what I want/like/choose to be/do/have in my life.

@KarlHannah By the definition of the words, "pan = all" and "theist = god belief," the word can be applied in both ways regardless of how you define the word. At its original core, pantheism is the belief that the god/creator is immanent in the creation. All things are a part of god. The Egyptians might not have been strictly pantheistic, but they had elements of pantheism: the river was not a symbol of a god, but was god.

If god is immanent in creation, then the universe is god. Personally, I believe that if there is a god, it is the universe, but it has no need to be worshiped.

@Gwendolyn2018 Agreed

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Yes. And probably even more crazy to believe in a god that does nothing that you can't see and has no effect on the universe....

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Yep. That toe jam after a long day of work? God. That food stuck to the dirty dish in the pile in the sink? God. That wall over there with the brick missing? God.

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I'd imagine it would be quite tiring because there are thousands of them even if you did one a day you wouldnt get through them very quickly and gods do need to be loved and obeyed quite a lot.

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It depends on what you call god---to believe that all things are connected, every living thing is a part of the whole , that every action has a reaction is not the same as believing in a divine being that is seperate from everything else. Sin isn't an issue in panteisim nor is heaven and hell. It is being aware of the consequences of actions and taking responsibility for them

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Pantheists believe in everything except reason.

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The conception of what is meant by god, is very different in pantheism. God as Nature is entirely immanent and always in process. Since nature only exposes it self in its diversity, I take it that the pantheist god is a plurality which is in the process of realizing itself (more the way William James saw pantheism) it is not a deity.

cava Level 7 Apr 22, 2018
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Belief in all gods, as pan means all.

How does someone believe in gods they aren't even aware of? What about false gods? Maybe they just think everything is god..

@thinkwithme There are NO gods to be aware of and one just creates them in their minds/brains as needed.

@thinkwithme I don't pretend to understand it. I have no belief in any form of god or spiritual things.

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One crock of shit or another still smells the same.

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Yes it does.

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Vague and/or ambiguous words make conversations so much harder. Grr!

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