Move to Oregon, Bob, they don't allow you to pump your own gas there. And get rid of that Bentley, an oil change shouldn't cost you more than $40. (Just joking)

@Condor5. If you only knew the stuff around here that require oil changes a work. Geeze! Oregon sounds great.

@BucketlistBob Oregon is a cool place, you should visit if you ever get the chance. I say this knowing they're not real fond of Californians, which I am.

@Condor5. We talked about relocating. Its so expensive to pick up and move. Our kids live around here. Its like i have insurance for struggling in my old age. They already know thats their job. Everytime i pulled thier ass out of a bind i told them this... yes dad .. we will.. no inheritance if i don't get a little help....lol. we here you dad...lol.

@BucketlistBob I've never had that expectation of my daughter, but she has volunteered as much, for which I am grateful. If they, our children, inherit our values, that family comes first, we should have little to worry about in our old age. I completely understand why you would want to stay close to your kids, aside from the fact they are your kids. I feel extremely fortunate to live close enough to my daughter so as to be able to visit with her often.
I was in no way suggesting a move to Oregon, btw, but a visit would be rewarding, I think. I lived and worked in Utah, for several months way back when, and have been mountainbiking there a few times since, but I would not choose to live there.

@Condor5. My brother, ive seen the ugliness of being helplessly dependant upon others. As much as i hated my dad... i was there for him and mom. Then it was Susies mom and dad. We would love to visit Oregon. The long drive would be fun. 3 days for sure to get there and just take our time driving from site to site. Ive spent a ton of money on my kids. Ill never get it back. I was there on the sidelines for them when their shit hit the fan. Its a small price to pay me back...

@BucketlistBob agreed. If you can't count on your kids, who can you count on.

@Condor5 I think they changed that last year

@btroje the gas pump thing? Really? Dang, now I don't have any reason to go back.