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WORLD NEWS AND COMMENTARY from Jeff Childers
Newsweek ran an op-ed yesterday by actual-expert Stanford Professor Jay Bhattacharya headlined, “It’s Time for Laws Limiting the Power of Public Health Institutions.”

'Using emergency power that most people never realized an American government possessed, public health violated Americans’ most fundamental civil rights in the name of infection control. We endured three years of useless and divisive policies, including lockdowns, church and business closures, zoom schools, mask mandates, and vaccine mandates and discrimination.'
Dr. Bhattacharya, a public health policy expert from before the pandemic, celebrated the passage of Florida’s new health-freedom law, SB 252, observing that the pandemic has changed his mind about the role of public health:

'Before the pandemic, I naively thought that a commitment to basic ethical principles constrained public health actions, and would therefore have opposed the Florida bill banning discrimination based on vaccination status. Now, I see the bill’s wisdom. I have learned not to trust public health authorities with expansive power anymore.'

Us too. The highly-credentialed Stanford professor also said that public health has a choice to make, a choice that will determine whether anyone ever trusts it again:

'Public health authorities face a choice that will decide whether the public will ever trust public health again. They can fight a partisan political battle against these laws, and the collapse of public trust in public health will continue apace. Or they can gracefully accept limits to their power in light of their pandemic failures.
If public health opts for the latter, rejects authoritarian power, and restores its commitment to basic ethical principles, it may regain the public’s trust so that it can creatively address the challenges to health that the American people now face.'

I was blessed with an opportunity to meet Dr. Bhattacharya (by phone and zoom) during the pandemic. He graciously provided — for free — affidavits for my anti-mandate cases, and volunteered to testify at my groundbreaking lawsuit against the very first government vaccine mandate in Florida. Dr. Bhattacharya is one of the smartest, and humblest, people I’ve ever met.

Do you think the Public Health Establishment will take Jay’s advice?

BDair 8 May 9
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Since public health has been under control of the pharmaceutical corporations and the unelected so called officials who depend on pharmaceutical corporations to support their public budgets in turn own patents that were created with public taxpayers monies!!!

Now The taxpayers have to pay over the top retail prices for these pharmaceuticals they already paid to be developed, hence receive no cost benefit except too be over charged for pharmaceuticals that the taxpayers made possible for taxpayers use!!!

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I wonder who pays him.

Likely some little Uni named Stanford. You may have heard of it.
'Bhattacharya is a professor of medicine at Stanford University, a professor by courtesy of economics at Stanford, a professor by courtesy in Stanford's Department of Health Research and Policy, a senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, the director of Stanford's Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Aging, a senior fellow by courtesy at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies, a research associate at Acumen LLC, and research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research.

He researches the health and well-being of populations, with emphasis on the role of government programs, biomedical innovation, and economics.'

@BDair Well, thank you and then I wonder who else pays him, after all we do know that bribery is rife everywhere.

Who would profit from his statements and positions?

@Jolanta look this man up as he is connected with a right wing dark money group that wants the same message this professor has been spewing to become main stream. I wonder why Dair left that out of the glorious review he gave to one of the most right wing experts concerning covid. To prop this right winger up, someone felt a need to call him humble. When you have to make shit up to make someone look humble, credibility is in question. A segment of the political world is glad to pay secretly for these kind of statements.

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This Dr. is humble? Provided affidavits? There are thousands of affidavits claiming Trump won the election or large scale voter fraud took place. Almost none of those people took an oath and made the same claims in court. Did this DR. testify in court concerning any affidavits? Did he say "given how public health's tyrannical playbook is now the accepted norm among public health leaders at the national and international levels." Really? Tyrannical? I have never heard a humble person talk like this guy. When I hear someone claiming tyrannical, I immediately suspect the claims. If he has to use that severe of a word, I suspect he is either a right winger or knows by saying that he will get more attention, especially in the press. I fail to see what he did during the pandemic when there was unsurety, panic in govt., the health profession and much of the public and decisions had to be made by people equally as educated as he. But most decision makers in the scientific world had experience and education as well as access to most of the important data concerning pandemic related information and most nations shared what they knew with each other hoping that together things would be dealt with as best as possible. Was he a major decision maker? Professors are not always top scientists. They are highly educated people and often choose to make education a career. Those in that career are not the decision makers or work at the facilities that are on the firing line for disease intervention. This guy is a back seat quarterback saying things that appeal to the right wing. Belittling leaders who made tough decisions during the pandemic is not humble. No one involved with making tough decisions about public health during the crisis agrees they got everything right. None of them deserve this condemnation. Many lives were saved because of efforts and mandates. Does this Dr say nothing helpful was done during the pandemic? Seems saving lives and minimizing spread were major reasons for most of the decisions. Bottom line is many lives were saved because of decisions to lock down and push vaccines. Please tell me what bad decisions were made during the pandemic. I read quite a bit of what he wrote and I must have missed any facts he mentioned. I saw opinionated comments, not supported by facts or science. He makes points that should be debated by his peers. He claims many of the actions were wrong and unnecessary. He over-exaggerates. He is in many media articles. Articles are not where people should be getting scientific information from. Has any of his claims been published in peer reviewed papers or literature?

There was nothing tyrannical about any of this, I guess.

@eCowell: well said!

" I suspect he is either a right winger or knows by saying that he will get more attention, especially in the press." A 'right wing' Stanford professor? Can you offer any evidence of this.

"Did this DR. testify in court concerning any affidavits?"
Does testifying before House of Representatives qualify?
'Testimony to U.S. House of Representatives Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis'
[congress.gov]

"Many lives were saved because of efforts and mandates."
This statement is patently false.
On the contrary, all of the evidence points to all of the mitigation
strategies causing more harm than good.

"Has(have) any of his claims been published in peer reviewed papers or literature?"
Yes.
'Assessing mandatory stay‐at‐home and business closure effects on the spread of COVID‐19'
[ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

@BDair his opinion is his opinion, you can call sharing opinions testimony. But like I said, he is not humble. Where are his peer reviewed claims? Did any professional journals post his research?

16,067 Medical & Public Health Scientists,
and 47,541 Medical practitioners have signed
the Great Barrington Declaration.

[gbdeclaration.org]

@BDair any evidence? Calling the efforts to minimize covid tyrannical sounds right wing to me. Do you have any evidence that reasonable scientists not connected to the right wing call things tyrannical? That was to satisfy the right wing and get attention. Show me a professional who talks like that who doesn't have biased opinions. He bad mouths many people who clearly were under a lot of pressure. Humble people don't go out of their way to play that blame game. Some who agree with some of what he says are not unprofessional and do not play the blame game. When a person plays the blame game, they show a sign of arrogance and weakness in their interest in finding the truth.

@BDair you wrote "On the contrary, all of the evidence points to all of the mitigation
strategies causing more harm than good." Really? You sound just like the guy you are defending. So vaccines caused more harm than good? Lock downs caused more harm than good? Masks, washing hands and social distancing caused more harm than good?

Closing restaurants, bars, churches, small businesses, parks, schools,
stadiums, beaches etc... is tyrannical.
There was never any science to support these measures.

@BDair here's evidence he caters to the right wing. The right wing use him as their poster boy. How come almost no other expert talks as radical as him? I wonder why the republican led hearing invited him to speak? [salon.com]

"So vaccines caused more harm than good?"
Yes, they most certainly have.
They were never proven to prevent infection or transmission.
They were completely ineffective with no benefit.
They are causing unmitigated harms. Mortality rates
in vaccinated countries all rose after vaccination campaigns.

@BDair - and small shops were often shuttered whereas big box stores were allowed to remain open. Funny that, innit?

@BDair your claims are opinions. Just because you say something does not make it true. Got any facts? You say vaccines caused more harm than good. Got any facts to support that? This link says your claim is false. [poynter.org]

@BDair [science.org]

@BDair after I responded to your request to provide evidence of right wing connections I don't hear anything from you.

A rise in mortality follows the vaccine rollout, in many countries.

@BDair do you have evidence vaccines cause the rise in mortality? When disease causes a lot of deaths, the medical world sometimes uses vaccines to counter the deaths. When there are a lot of deaths, a vaccine often is developed to counter the disease. The death rate is high and after the vaccine takes affect and is used by a large % of people, the death rate goes down. When did the covid death rate begin to decline? How many months after the vaccine became available did the death rate steadily decline? The fact covid deaths are very low now and a large number have been vaccinated suggests your claim is false. If what you said was correct, how come almost no one who was vaccinated is still alive unless they died from other causes?

@BDair dark money drives a lot of people to say things that are clearly far from accurate. [exposedbycmd.org]

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An actual expert. Many years ago I was a demolition specialist in the Army. All of the "experts" were dead.

He is a 'highly credentialed Stanford professor'.
I thought 'military intelligence' was an oxymoron.

You just replied, very concisely, what I was about to type.

@BDair
There's a reason they tack on moron to the ass-end of oxy... 🙂

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