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Is it borne of misogyny when older women, who are married to or dating younger men are scrutinised, questioned and labelled by our media in a way that men aren't?

I'm thinking of Mick Jagger who recently had a baby with his girlfriend 43 years his junior and a media which became obsessed with, and got itself into a dizzying state of consternation over the French President, Emmanuel Macron's older wife.

Older women who date younger men are shamed by society and labelled predators (cougars). Equally their male partners are ridiculed too (toy boys). This is unkind.

I know of three different couples in my life all of which are comprised of younger men and older women.

One is a male friend who is married to a woman 17 years his senior. Another is a brother of a friend who's been married for over two decades to a woman 20 years his senior. They share a home and run a successful business together.

Using age difference to shame a person's choice of partner is a line crossed.

Ellatynemouth 8 May 4
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That's non of my business.... never has, never will be..... Who am I to pretend to know what's best for someone else, age wise???...you got that right, I am Nobody.

No one is a nobody.

@Ellatynemouth ahhhh you're wrong...... I am Nobody

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I agree with your points made. It all goes back to the time when women were property and basically had no rights. Sometimes it still feels that way because of the vestiges of these beliefs. All we can do as women is to not give a flying f**k about what others think. I've dated men much older and also much younger and it never much mattered to me as long as I was happy

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Misygyny + ageism = older women should...not exist?

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Women judge older women dating younger men, and women judge men for dating younger women. Most men couldn't care less about either. The media doesn't count, they are just interested in viewership and money. They couldn't care less who anyone is with.

@Silvertongue That is what l said. ?

@Silvertongue OOPS! Fixed it. Thanks. ?

@ProudMerry We all have different experiences. ?

Hey if an older woman wants to take advantage of me then please by all means !!!!!!

@IamNobody lol

@Sticks48 sense of humor... Check !!!!

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I definitely agree with your last statement, the only time age difference matters is when it is an adult manipulating and taking advantage of the naïveté of a child which luckily is frowned upon. However, I don’t think it’s born of misogyny so much as it is more of a violation of the norm. I think that it is far more prevalent that older men get with younger women and it doesn’t really shock people by this point. However seeing a younger man with an older woman is probably unusual for some people. So I imagine it’s people being baffeled by something that they really should put too much thought to in the first place and just shrug and move on.

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I think it comes down to the fact that older men tend to be respected and admired whereas older women, well...
And grey hair! A man is a hot daddy or a silver fox. A woman is just old and has let herself go.
So being in a relationship with an older woman is not something that society tells us is positive.

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Is 'cougar' really a derogatory term? I always thought it was pretty neutral. It's things like 'slut' and 'whore' that are problematic, for my money. Courteney Cox had no problem appearing in Cougar Town. I really can't see her being too keen to appear in Whore Town or Slut Town.

Of course there are massive double standards when it comes to male and female sexuality. The dominant/insertive partner is always celebrated as the conqueror, while the passive/receptive one meets with derision as the defeated. "A key that fits any lock is a master key. A lock that's opened by any key is a pretty crappy lock."

We need to stop seeing sex as something that someone in the insertive (traditionally male) role 'does to' someone in the receptive (traditionally female) role when they give in and allow it to happen. The whole idea of 'cougars' pursuing younger men to satisfy their own sexual appetites is part of that revolution.

Go cougars!

There are many older women (like Jennifer Lopez and others) and myself who resent the conflation. It's a toxic invalidation of a relationship to define it as being a predator and its prey.

@Ellatynemouth Getting away from predator and prey is pretty much my point. Of course it's okay for someone to romantically or sexually pursue an interest in someone else. If nobody did, we wouldn't get anywhere. Someone has to make the first move.

A romantic or sexual arrangement should be mutually beneficial for both (or all) parties involved. The part that's toxic is the one that says it's okay for men to pursue women, but not the reverse.

@NicoleCadmium

If a woman wants to call herself a cougar - that's her choice. She owns it. The media labelling someone else a cougar is a different matter.

If I am in a relationship with a younger man and someone labels me a 'cougar', like some other women I will be offended.

No one else gets to decide if I am offended or not.

And it's impossible to get away from the predator connotation. A cougar will always be a big cat.

@Ellatynemouth But isn't that always the problem with labels? Great when you let people choose their own. Problematic when people thrust them upon others, contrary to their own identity.

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Double standards are a rule of life.
No, it isn't right.
See the responses when a woman teacher gets busted for having sex with male students, opposed to what they are when a male teacher does.
Dualities of existence.

That's a very good point. Generally women get the short end of the stick but your example favors women.

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As far as I’m concerned, it is a facet of the overall misogyny that affects our society. Just another example of the ‘wow, what a stud; wow, what a slut’ double standard. Does my head in.

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I couldn't agree more. Love is love. My girlfriend is 7 year older than I and I couldn't be happier. That's nothing compared to those other examples, but I know people raise an eyebrow anyway.

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