Not judging who's right or wrong but posting this for any who doubt Israel is a Theist state, inspired and guided by religious dogma rather than secular values.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.The guy in the video does not mention God. In Videos from Hamas or Hisbollah, Allah is mentioned in every sentence
Israel is not and has never been a theist or theocratic state. It was founded by socialist zionists. From 1948 till 1977 it was run by a socialist and secular party (Mapai, then Awoda). Up until recently the religious right was a marginalized minority in Israel. The major enemy of Israel, Iran, is a theocratic state.
There are democratic elections in Israel (more than is good for the country!), but there are no elections in Palestinian territories
Thibaud70
Level 7
Oct 21, 2023
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puff:
Vatican
Israel
Iran
The three theist states who represent the three Abrahamic religions and act like the three stooges.
Look at the language used in this official video preparing the populace for war;
"A message to the Jewish nation, I would like to speak to the Jewish people, antisemitism is surging, the Jewish people we are one. Israel isn't just a home for Israelis it's a home for all Jews" etc etc
Yes the other side god botherers too, both are nutters which is why we are agnostic here on this site.
Israel is a long way from secular. "What country is the Jewish state?" is a question easily answered is it not? Israelis should be rounded up and confined to a certain area for 6 months or so and be allowed to pause and think. Be refugees in their own land for a time to see what it is like aka be a Palestinian. Then they may be willing to talk, compromise and help form a Palestinian state as being a theist state, they will never absorb these people fully into Israeli society (not Jewish you see) so a seperate state is the only solution. Israel will lose conquered land but should suck it up if they really desire peaceful coexistence.
Of course anti-semitism is increasing. The horrors are bing felt on both sides. The world is divided on who is at fault as it is not a B & W issue. This speech could have also been made in several countries in the nineteenth century as the new, incoming people's were bent on vilifying and driving out the indigenous ones. Power does NOT make right.
jackjr
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Oct 20, 2023
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puff:
The link is titled "a message to the Jewish nation". Why Jewish nation? Why not Israeli's or do only Jews inhabit Israel?
There would be no debate regarding theist status if the intro was "A message to the Islamic nation"
@puff Sounds like another Nuremberg type speech. It has been, often, rightly said: abuse the gift that keeps on giving. So this tell me no other religious groups will be allowed. Problem is, the cultural Jewish group don't believe in any gods. Will they be allowed in? I think we also need to know, supposedly, Israel has nuclear capability.
Believe they are a theist state if you want to. I heard no scripture mentioned. They fight as they do because they remember the past and they have no place to go.
DenoPenno
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Oct 20, 2023
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So its ok to dispossess Palestinians of their land & murder them?
So they take land from others and drive those displaced to terrible living conditions and a loss of life. The Jewish community has found numerous places, outside Israel, to go and live peacefully. So what will happen to the Palestinians? Will they then have to find another place and drive out the inhabitants!? Until, we come to grips with overpopulation this scenario will only increase, globally.
Just in case you did miss it, but there are plenty of jewish people living in the US and other countries in the world. Even when I was in Tunisia there were a thriving jewish community there who lived in peace with their muslim neighbours.
So when they drive the Palestinians out and their numbers keep on rising will there be a holy war. Believers against the atheist heathens?
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