This was the Republican primary voters....

@Lizard_of_Ahaz Yes, but the whole electorate is such that it's a consistently blue state. It stands to reason that the Independents (and maybe the Republicans) aren't super far right, thus, should be much more likely to support Haley. But she got her ass kicked. Very telling. I would be shocked if she wins a single state before she drops out.

@Lizard_of_Ahaz But if that's true, why is Trump consistently ahead of Biden in every poll??

@ChestRockfield Maybe if you read the thread you would have run across my answer to silverotter11?...

But a few hundred people does not make a statistical universe large enough to start with but as I told her "All those poll are done by calling LANDLINES if you can believe that... just think they are polling the fucking Flintstones to find out who they are voting for or how they feel about policies..."

@Lizard_of_Ahaz According to Pew, "The 2016 and 2020 presidential elections left many Americans wondering whether polling still works. Pre-election polls in both years struggled to capture the strength of support for former President Donald Trump and other Republican candidates." If the demographic that was answering the phone was the issue, and those two elections saw the polls underestimated support for Trump, what could the cause of a total flip-flop be that now the polls are overestimating support for him?

I think the American electorate is stupid and has a super short memory. I think they've had 4 years of normalcy and don't remember what it was like and are too stupid to see the writing on the wall. I think a lot of people that voted for Biden may not turn out for him again because they are unable to see the urgency of keeping Trump out of the White House. I truly believe these polls are fairly accurate and we're about to see another Trump term.

Which is exactly what he is saying if you pay attention.... All those poll are done by calling LANDLINES if you can believe that... just think they are polling the fucking Flintstones to find out who they are voting for or how they feel about policies...

@Lizard_of_Ahaz We're just going to have to wait and see what happens in November, it's gonna be a very long 10 months.

@silverotter11 If the exit polls are any indicator Trump may well not win but even if he doesn't many Independents and 20 to 30% of Republicans won't vote for him and may well either stay away from the polls or vote Biden instead. This will likely not only flip the house but end up backfiring in the senate as well. It will also be reflected in the down ballot (it has already done so in special elections).

@Lizard_of_Ahaz It gives me hope but until the ballots are counted I just can't rest easy. Limit the info I take in, donate to blue candidates and talk about the facts when I can.

@silverotter11 One of the factors skewing votes from the right in the special elections was abortion and women's healthcare thankful most younger women are turning away from the GOP and that has changed results as much as 11 points in some elections. Also it should be noted that for a primary in the general election this is having an extremely low turnout for the Republicans...