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The beginning of the end...

Lizard_of_Ahaz 9 Jan 24
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IS that the face of someone who has just realized that the fart he thought was coming, has lumps in it.

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His spray-tan person needs to be fired for incompetence.

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Usually this guy makes some sense, but I only watched the first couple minutes and everything was wrong. I mean, his lead on her grew since Meatball Ron dropped out. And even if she won NH in a landslide, it would mean fuck all.
That state has been blue 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. A Dem state saying they want someone other than Trump should be expected, not an upset or blinking red light. And Trump still won by an 11 point margin? Based on expectations, that's a bloodbath. If she can't even make it close there, she's got zero shot. Wake me up when Haley beats Trump in Wyoming.

And it doesn't fucking matter if people say a conviction is disqualifying, anyone who's still with him now with 91 indictments will be able to justify standing by him with a conviction because only a fucking moron doesn't already know he's guilty. And fucking morons vote for Trump.

Honestly, if you haven't left Trump yet, there's no piece of straw big enough to break that camel's back.

This was the Republican primary voters....

@Lizard_of_Ahaz Yes, but the whole electorate is such that it's a consistently blue state. It stands to reason that the Independents (and maybe the Republicans) aren't super far right, thus, should be much more likely to support Haley. But she got her ass kicked. Very telling. I would be shocked if she wins a single state before she drops out.

@ChestRockfield The same results only worse for Trump occurred in New Hampshire... Yes he won the vote but she received 43% of it taking most of the Independent voters as well which any Republican NEEDS to with the National election. Next we see what happens in Nevada and South Carolina but if this trend continues and the answers in exit polls continue to remain the same percentage wise it looks very bad on both the up and down ballots for Republicans...

@Lizard_of_Ahaz But if that's true, why is Trump consistently ahead of Biden in every poll??

@ChestRockfield Maybe if you read the thread you would have run across my answer to silverotter11?...

But a few hundred people does not make a statistical universe large enough to start with but as I told her "All those poll are done by calling LANDLINES if you can believe that... just think they are polling the fucking Flintstones to find out who they are voting for or how they feel about policies..."

@Lizard_of_Ahaz According to Pew, "The 2016 and 2020 presidential elections left many Americans wondering whether polling still works. Pre-election polls in both years struggled to capture the strength of support for former President Donald Trump and other Republican candidates." If the demographic that was answering the phone was the issue, and those two elections saw the polls underestimated support for Trump, what could the cause of a total flip-flop be that now the polls are overestimating support for him?

I think the American electorate is stupid and has a super short memory. I think they've had 4 years of normalcy and don't remember what it was like and are too stupid to see the writing on the wall. I think a lot of people that voted for Biden may not turn out for him again because they are unable to see the urgency of keeping Trump out of the White House. I truly believe these polls are fairly accurate and we're about to see another Trump term.

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There are many sources of wishful thinking, There is a video on youtube for everything imaginable. If only a small fraction of them were right, he would have been gone years ago. And he;s not!!!!. We have to get ready for a lifetime of adult diapers, that is looking more and more likely. IMHO.

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The media is so focused on polls and primaries and all of it means nothing. The electoral college puts the person who they want to win in the White House.
Not one of the other candidates the GOP put out there were even remotely capable of running the country.
trump sounded like a demented old man, at least from what little I could actually listen to.
The electoral college is a huge worry and it is clear the republicans in charge of the party will stop at nothing to get back into the WH.

Which is exactly what he is saying if you pay attention.... All those poll are done by calling LANDLINES if you can believe that... just think they are polling the fucking Flintstones to find out who they are voting for or how they feel about policies...

@Lizard_of_Ahaz We're just going to have to wait and see what happens in November, it's gonna be a very long 10 months.

@silverotter11 If the exit polls are any indicator Trump may well not win but even if he doesn't many Independents and 20 to 30% of Republicans won't vote for him and may well either stay away from the polls or vote Biden instead. This will likely not only flip the house but end up backfiring in the senate as well. It will also be reflected in the down ballot (it has already done so in special elections).

@Lizard_of_Ahaz It gives me hope but until the ballots are counted I just can't rest easy. Limit the info I take in, donate to blue candidates and talk about the facts when I can.

@silverotter11 One of the factors skewing votes from the right in the special elections was abortion and women's healthcare thankful most younger women are turning away from the GOP and that has changed results as much as 11 points in some elections. Also it should be noted that for a primary in the general election this is having an extremely low turnout for the Republicans...

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