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One the Chanel 4 news last night the Israeli minister Boaz Bismuth of the Likud Party was being "interviewed".
It mainly involved his speaking over the interviewer and claiming there is no starvation in Gaza, no atrocities, that thousands of aid trucks are rolling in to Gaza everyday and that the whole world is perpetuating a lie that even though the Evil Hamas Utopia of Gaza is paradise on earth, Israel is being made to look like a monster when all they have done is ask nicely for their hostages back.
I was thinking this all seemed oddly familiar and then it hit me
Boaz Bismuth of the Likud Party is using EXACTLY the same arguments, speaking style and logic as Flat Earthers, Climate deniers and worst of all Holocaust deniers!
WTAF????

LenHazell53 9 Mar 19
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It's funny (not) that some can get on their high horse and claim things are not as they are presented in multiple medias. Only fools and nitwits will believe people like this guy.

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach seems to, the out spoken old pervert who writes kosher sex guides and whose daughter runs a multimillion dollar Kosher marital aid company.
He's been doing the rounds of the British media spewing Propaganda worthy of a Minister for enlightenment too

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Not all statements made by political and religious leaders, are made to persuade and convince everyone, even when they are openly making statements to the whole world, on a public platform.
Often they are only interested in using a platform, when they are given one, to confirm the prejudices and loyalties of those who already believe the lies. If they look like fools to the rest of the world, that does not matter.

Preaching to the choir is pretty much what Trump does every day.

@Flyingsaucesir Yes he is a classic example.

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Are sure that it's not just straight out of Goebbels hymnal?
[en.wikipedia.org]

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"The first victim of war is truth."

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Facts no longer matter my friend. Folks just make shit up as they go and call what “they” believe facts…..👀

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Yup, right out of the authoritarian playbook (the chapter on bald lies), acted out on the world stage by tyrants throughout history, and popularized in recent times by the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Donald J Trump. (Is it just a coincidence that they are also involved in a 3-way love affair? I think not.) In his dystopian novel 1984, Orwell called the linguistic style "Newspeak." But there's nothing new about it. Those lies are as old as the hills.

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Yes. BB & his ilk =Cult45=Putin & his ilk. BB is reviled in Israel but his coalition puts him in power. I just think he squandered the empathy card & Biden was too early in embracing him in that literal hug. Biden could not hug Israel so he hugged the symbol. I loathe what BB is doing in the name of Israel when all Israel wants is a small sliver of land in an area as the only democracy . A 2 state solution when the Arab & Persian countries have the majority of land from Morocco to Pakistan, a swath that is immense.

What exactly has the Arab & Persian countries got to do with what is done to the Palestinians?

Israel wants WAY more than a small sliver of land. They want all of Gaza for more settlers. I have Jewish blood on my mothers side, so I feel I can speak frankly here.

Bibi has for decades kept this situation from a solution because he wants ALL of the land and to force Palestinians out completely. He was the one that brought Hamas into being, and paid them to keep control of the Palestinians. Israel created Hamas to use for their benefit.

The history of the region has always been filled with more lies than truth, unfortunately, on both sides. However, I take great issue with Israel, which has done everything to make matters worse, and a solution unattainable.

Here are a few quotes I found about Israeli intention.

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas.”

– Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (Milejkowski) at Likud party meeting (2019)

“In the visible dimension Hamas is an enemy, in the hidden dimension it is an ally.”

– IDF Major General Gershon Hacohen (2019)

“Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet.”

– Charles Freeman, US diplomat and ambassador (2006)

“I helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement [Hamas]”

– Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, Israeli military governor in Gaza

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation.”

  • Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official

“The Palestinian Authority is a burden, and Hamas is an asset.”

  • Bezalel Smotrich

@Redheadedgammy Apparently Netanyahu funded Hamas, yes. To what degree? I don't know. But I think it's fair to say Hamas is, at least in part, a creature of the Israeli government. However, as far as I can tell, the membership and leadership of Hamas is Palestinian. Isn't that right?

@Flyingsaucesir Yes, primarily Palestinians who are in league with Israel. Remember, Israel has kept them in power with money, and they worked together to control the Palestinian people. There appears to be no problem for some people to sell out their own people for money and control.

@Redheadedgammy Does accepting money from someone necessarily mean the recipient is "in league" with the donor? Might the two parties just be using one another? Isn't that more likely in this case?

@Flyingsaucesir What would you call "using one another"?

There are both positve and negative meanings of "in leage" of course. My understanding of "in leage" in this instance is that it means people are working secretly together.

Hamas and Israel/IDF are working secretly together to keep things as they are. No two state solution and Hamas can stay in power and keep getting money, and Israel gets what it wants, no Palestinian state.

@Redheadedgammy I think what you described fits the definition of "using one another." The fact of all-out war between the two parties does not, to my mind, indicate their being "in league."

@Flyingsaucesir We will have to agree to disagree on the definition of "in league". They may be at war with one another, but too many of the so called leaders of each side are in cahoots, in league with each other.

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It is a common thing for the far-right to do. It is what Putin and Trump do too.

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