Changing views: American Jews who actually try to learn about Palestinians:
The only thing they need to learn is that Palestinians lie all the time.
@Druvius Palestinian is not a race, so any comment made (pro or con) about Palestinians cannot be racist. Additionally, when you can illustrate one, JUST ONE peace agreement they ever stuck with, let us know.
Your "understanding" of events and race is very poor.
@Alienbeing They are a nationality of a differet ethnicity. So your stereotype is racism.
@Krish55 Your reply shows only ignorance. Palestinian is NOT a Nationality. There never was a country called Palestine.The word Palestine was first used by the Turks (Ottoman Empire) to describe an area. The area was never a country rather it was governed by the Ottoman Empire. After the Ottoman Empire was dissolved (they were a German ally in WW 1) the British took over governing that area, among many others.
If you really are a history teacher you should have known that.
@Alienbeing You are the one showing ignorance:
A nation is different from a nation-state. Palestine was a defined British colony, with its citizens having Palestinian passports 1920-1948.
Today, Palestine is recognized as a state by the vast majority of countries of the world, except for the imperialist white racist countries.
The origin of the word Palestine was used as far back as about 1200 BC. Palestine is merely the Romanization of those earlier forms - Philistia, Peleset, Pilistu, etc.
@Krish55 You are full of yourself, and apparently love to change the subject.
First, your "point" #1 is pure word salad bullshit. Kindly explain the difference between a Nation and a Nation State.
Second, Palestinian Passports issued by the British who, as you said, "Palestine was a defined British colony, " England was the government, not any local Palestinian. If Palestinians were the government Britian would not have issued the passport. All this makes your "#1" totally irrelevant.
Third, whether Palestine is recognized as a State by anyone is entirely irrelevant to anything I said.
Forth, how far usage of the word Palestine goes back in time is another entirely irrelevant to anything I said, and in fact, if anything tnds to back up my point.
In closing there NEVER was a country called Palestine. With you as a teacher it is not wonder our kids score so poorly.
@Alienbeing You expalin away your lack of knowledge and therefore comprehension as due to a word salad. But you can check the above and the following on Chap GPT:
A nation is a group of people with some common characteristics on a territory. A nation-state is when they are able to have their own government. Thus Germany was a nation before it became a nation state due to Bismark.
Palestine has existed from Egyptian times to the British as a well-defined area. This contradicts your saying that it never existed.
The fact that most of the world accepts Palestine as a State, as well as a nation, contradicts your claim that it doesn't exist.
You are correct that Palestine was never an independent country nor a nation-state. However, this is irrelevant. Neither was Jamaica and the vast majority of Eurpean colonies before they became independent. Independence was granted on the defined colonial borders. All countries that desired so got their independence - except for Palestine, which was given over to European Jews.
This takeover violated the terms of the British Mandate. The British did not own Palestine as a regular colony. Instead, the League of Nations, based on Wilson's 14 Points, expressly gave Britain the duty of preparing Palestine for independence. The other Mideast mandates were Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Those three got their independence.
Palestine, however, was given away to pay for white sins...
@Krish55 You self love does not change fact. Lets exam your replies:
I find it amazing that a person who is obviously not so well educated is actually entrusted to teach.
Those are the definitions of the field of Human Goegraphy. I told you that you can confirm with Chat GPT.
Yes, Palestine never existed as an independent country. Neither did Jamaica nor the USA before independence.Your argument is one that Britain could have used to deny independence to both.
But the League of Nations gave Britain the Mandate to prepare Palestine for existence as an independent country. Instead, Britain allowed the white Jewish immigration that created the current problem.
They recognize the pre-1967 borders.
You had earlier denied the historical concept of a geographical Palestine similar to the geographical Germany.
The UN General Assembly vote was non-binding. The white countries, out of historical guilt, forced the smaller countries they controlled to vote for it.
The present problem was created by white imperialism.
@Krish55 You are basically full of yourself. Since when was Chat GPT an acceptable source for definitions? Is your degree from Bullshit University?
It is obvious that you are so wrapped up in yourself that an academic conversation with you is impossible. I am sure you are a poor teacher and I truly feel sorry for your students.
I'd continue to show that you are a basically an idealog, but frankly you aren't worth the time.
@Alienbeing Chat GPT searched valid sources. I myself got those definitions from AP Human Geograpy training. If you would like to see them in print, find a Human Geography text.
Those following this will notice that any time your points are refuted with facts and logic, you resort to personal attack.
@Krish55 Those following this (I doubt there are but a few at best) plainly see you are a hopeless idea log, with a large smattering of socialism.
Chat GPT is a only a valid source according to you.
To answer your question I have a B.S. in Economics from Cornell and a J.D. from Wake Forest.
Which Community College did you attend?
@Alienbeing Your reply here still does not refute anything I said.
@Krish55 Yes it does. Now you can add your lock of reading comprehension to your other failings.
You said "Those following this will notice that any time your points are refuted with facts and logic, you resort to personal attack." I replied "Those following this (I doubt there are but a few at best) plainly see you are a hopeless idea log, with a large smattering of socialism."
Other replies showed your reach for Socialism.
Don't bother to reply, I really don't care what you have to say.
@Alienbeing You still haven't refuted anyting while continuing to engage in persolal attack, while arrogantlya and petulantly muttering, "no need to reply." I am replying merely to mirror you to yourself and demonstrate your discussion method.
@Krish55 I refuted everything you said and everything you stand for. I am not surprised that you don't recognize this becuase most "teachers" don't recognize much. You belong to a group that produced horrible results. Despite the massive over funding we give schools our students compare very poorly with students from other developed countries.
There is no need for you to reply because I am very dismissive of you. However if you do reply, try harder. You refusal to recognize you have been corrected in no way makes that conclusion correct.
By the way "anything" is not spelled "anyting" and "personal is not spelled "persolal". Teachers should know this.
@Alienbeing Sorry, I was in a hurry. I was not submitting a legal brief to your honor. I will try to do better next time!
@Krish55 I don't think you can do much better, your education is clearly inferior. Congratulation on being in a profession that has shown it can't produce decent results.
@Alienbeing Do you have anything substantive to add? Or do you only have insults to make up for the lack of facts and logic.
@Krish55 Your last post is a repeat of your prior nonsense. Among other things you show you don't know what an insult is, so why continue to answer your nonsense?
Pointing out that your education is inferior is not an insult, rather a fact. Additionally pointing out that our education system a mess, a fact that proves teachers and education administrators don't accomplish much is also a fact, not an insult.